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Post by chez23 on Oct 25, 2015 17:11:04 GMT -5
A great candidate that would be available is OC from UCF Brent Key. UCF HC George O' Leary just resigned and Key has been under O'Leary for more then 5 years, UCF is a top level G5 program and Key has seen how to develop a program. Academically UCF has been at the top of all FBS programs in GPA and most importantly graduation rate. UCF like Mercer stress academics first. That is why he be a great fit at Mercer to take the MU program to the next level. Key also is a strong recruiter in FLA and Georgia. He's a perfect fit!
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Post by MUfan on Oct 25, 2015 17:22:05 GMT -5
This is a ridiculous idea at this point.
Second season with scholarships.
The Southern Conference is a huge step up from the PFL.
If you want to evaluate the program's direction after next year, fine, but Lamb is still building the Bears and I see no reason to go with someone else at this point.
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Post by chez23 on Oct 25, 2015 18:43:17 GMT -5
This is a ridiculous idea at this point. Second season with scholarships. The Southern Conference is a huge step up from the PFL. If you want to evaluate the program's direction after next year, fine, but Lamb is still building the Bears and I see no reason to go with someone else at this point. You sure the program is headed in the right direction and or that Lamb really wants to be at MU? His Furman ties run deep. 4th year and still not showing progress. 0-3 in SOCON again. Losing close games counts against him know. First few years he gets a pass. And the way they are losing is from poor coaching. At one point MU needs to see the program making progress. Don't get me wrong I like Lamb and I want MU to win but it seems like this staff isn't improving the program or recruiting well enough. Great location, facilities, academics. commitment and in Georgia should be a winning combination 4 yrs in. Not saying win the SOCON but win some games in the SOCON. |
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Post by Clueless Fan on Oct 25, 2015 18:55:17 GMT -5
A great candidate that would be available is OC from UCF Brent Key. UCF HC George O' Leary just resigned and Key has been under O'Leary for more then 5 years, UCF is a top level G5 program and Key has seen how to develop a program. Academically UCF has been at the top of all FBS programs in GPA and most importantly graduation rate. UCF like Mercer stress academics first. That is why he be a great fit at Mercer to take the MU program to the next level. Key also is a strong recruiter in FLA and Georgia. He's a perfect fit! You lost me at UCF stresses academics first. Also,this is not the time for a thread like this. |
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Post by jackal on Oct 25, 2015 19:52:31 GMT -5
Forgetting the Lamb issue, what on earth does UCF have in common with Mercer? They would appear, actually, to be polar opposites.
I saw UCF's offense (remember, Furman beat them this year). They are not very good. The team is winless and they have only eclipsed 20 points once.
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Post by FUBeAR on Oct 25, 2015 20:50:52 GMT -5
A great candidate that would be available is OC from UCF Brent Key. UCF HC George O' Leary just resigned and Key has been under O'Leary for more then 5 years, UCF is a top level G5 program and Key has seen how to develop a program. Academically UCF has been at the top of all FBS programs in GPA and most importantly graduation rate. UCF like Mercer stress academics first. That is why he be a great fit at Mercer to take the MU program to the next level. Key also is a strong recruiter in FLA and Georgia. He's a perfect fit! You lost me at UCF stresses academics first. Also,this is not the time for a thread like this. Are you saying that you weren't LOST when the mention was made to look to a team and an OC that is 0-8; has lost to a SoCon Team that currently has a losing record in the SoCon and Overall; that sits dead-a$$ last of all 127 FBS Teams in Total Offense & Rushing Offense, and is 3rd from last in Scoring Offense; and that doesn't even crack the FCS Top 25 in Sagarin or Massey ratings while playing with 23 more scholarships? I admire your reading persistence level C-Econ! |
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Post by 95sacks on Oct 25, 2015 21:12:30 GMT -5
I agree not time to sack the HC but we do need a fast fix now for we may not win another game this year and set this program back to square 1. The SOCON needs Mercer brand to be winner.
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Post by wcugrad95 on Oct 25, 2015 21:52:36 GMT -5
I am an outsider, so take this for what it is worth...
No way should Mercer be in "panic-mode" to think about getting rid of Bobby Lamb. I think chez needs a reality check, especially considering his recommendation for a replacement would be for taking a guy from possibly the worst Offense in the country (I live in Orlando). In my opinion you are on schedule, will be well ahead of ETSU, and will probably win 3 or more conference games next season.
That being said, I don't believe the SOCON is counting or needing the "Mercer brand to be a winner" - you guys have won 1 conference game in 1.5 seasons and probably are looking at another 1-6 or 0-7 conference season. I still think you have a ton of talent and have obviously been close in numerous games, so the record is not surprising and you can turn things around pretty quickly. Mercer is a great addition to the SOCON for many reasons. But I don't believe the conference is teetering on Mercer's rise or fall in football.
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Post by jackal on Oct 26, 2015 5:21:24 GMT -5
I agree not time to sack the HC but we do need a fast fix now for we may not win another game this year and set this program back to square 1. The SOCON needs Mercer brand to be winner. The SoCon does not "need" Mercer's brand to be a winner. |
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Post by FUBeAR on Oct 26, 2015 6:19:52 GMT -5
I agree not time to sack the HC but we do need a fast fix now for we may not win another game this year and set this program back to square 1. The SOCON needs Mercer brand to be winner. The SoCon does not "need" Mercer's brand to be a winner. Posted by wcugrad95 8 hours ago "I don't believe the SOCON is counting or needing the "Mercer brand to be a winner"" ADMIN ALERT: There seems to be an echo on your website. |
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Post by Clueless Fan on Oct 26, 2015 6:25:14 GMT -5
You lost me at UCF stresses academics first. Also,this is not the time for a thread like this. Are you saying that you weren't LOST when the mention was made to look to a team and an OC that is 0-8; has lost to a SoCon Team that currently has a losing record in the SoCon and Overall; that sits dead-a$$ last of all 127 FBS Teams in Total Offense & Rushing Offense, and is 3rd from last in Scoring Offense; and that doesn't even crack the FCS Top 25 in Sagarin or Massey ratings while playing with 23 more scholarships? I admire your reading persistence level C-Econ! I am going to admit I had no idea that UCF sucked that bad this year. It is UCF afterall. Honestly, no one follows the G5 schools unless you are an alumnus of one. In that respect, they are no different than the SoCon or the CAA or any other FCS conference. |
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Post by chez23 on Oct 26, 2015 9:15:22 GMT -5
I agree not time to sack the HC but we do need a fast fix now for we may not win another game this year and set this program back to square 1. The SOCON needs Mercer brand to be winner. The SoCon does not "need" Mercer's brand to be a winner. SOCON maynot but MU sure does. There is a big investment in the program and of MU keeps losing then 5k fans at games wont cut it. I dont think Pres. Underwood wants to see that. |
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Post by chez23 on Oct 26, 2015 9:35:58 GMT -5
If it came to looking for a new HC at MU then Key at UCF would be a good look. A G5 coach at a big school for over 8 years. Yes UCF is struggling this year but you have to look at the situation. Unless you follow UCF football then you really dont see what is going on. George O'leary had been a great mentor for Key and UCF has had great succuss both on the field and in the classroom. MU will want to look at a HC that beleives Academcis is very impotant, UCF did and Key was there learning how. UCF is in the top 5 ranked FBS graduation rate school in the country the last few years.....so UCF does focus on Academics at the highest levels. Key is also a good recruiter and has had success in Georgia. I am not saying Lamb needs to go, but if SOCON wins dont start coming this year ( and it looks tough at this point) then I would think a change would be considered. So dig a little deeper ( see below ) and take a minute to look up Brent Key. To even have a guy like this interested in MU would be a win.
FUBear: UCF #5. Not bad company to be with on this list.
All Student-Athletes
GSR 2014
1. Notre Dame, 99
2. Stanford, 98
3. Duke, 97
4. Northwestern, 96
5. (tie) Boston College, Central Florida, 95
7. Wake Forest, 94
8. (tie) Miami (Fla.), Rice, 92
10. (tie) Alabama, Clemson , 91
Brent Key (born August 1, 1978) is an American college football coach and former player, currently the assistant head coach, offensive line coach, and recruiting coordinator of the UCF Knights.[2] Key played under current UCF head coach George O'Leary at Georgia Tech, where he later served as a graduate assistant before joining O'Leary at UCF.[3] Since 2007, Key has served as the program's recruiting coordinator, and in 2014 was promoted to assistant head coach of offense.
Key is widely regarded as one of the top assistant coaches in the country, and is believed to be the heir apparent to O'Leary.[4] Following the 2013 season in which UCF won the Fiesta Bowl, Key reportedly declined the head coaching job at UAB to remain with the Knights
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Post by BearDownMU on Oct 26, 2015 12:36:34 GMT -5
Not trying to be mean or anything, but talking about replacing the staff at this point is just silly. Looking at replacements at the end of this year if we don't win another game this SEASON is silly.
But for the sake of silly, if all of the above is true about Brent Key, why in the world would he come to Mercer? Are "top assistant coaches in the country" looking to go from FBS to head coaching an FCS school that's played 3 years worth of games? No.
Also, Brent Key is making $300K a year. So that should settle that. lol
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Post by jackal on Oct 26, 2015 13:17:15 GMT -5
Not trying to be mean or anything, but talking about replacing the staff at this point is just silly. Looking at replacements at the end of this year if we don't win another game this SEASON is silly. But for the sake of silly, if all of the above is true about Brent Key, why in the world would he come to Mercer? Are "top assistant coaches in the country" looking to go from FBS to head coaching an FCS school that's played 3 years worth of games? No. Also, Brent Key is making $300K a year. So that should settle that. lol Good to see your message board has its share of Chicken Little as well. Still not sure if Mercer fans appreciate how fortunate they were that Bobby Lamb was available as they restarted their program. Hard to know who the "best" coach would have been to lead the Bears, but they got a pretty good one who already understands what it takes to win in this league. Again, I've seen UCF. Their offense is worse than Furman's, and our offense is awful. They had success running about one play against us (read option off a jet sweep). Once we shut that down they did pretty much nada for half the game offensively. |
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