MU22
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Post by MU22 on Sept 21, 2014 23:17:37 GMT -5
I was more curious as how Navy in particular has had relevant success in recent years vs. Army's struggles. and How Citadel has had relevant success vs. VMI's struggles in their respective classifications. Sorry I didn't word that well. What does navy do differently, how much PT do athletes go through on top of athletics training. etc. Coaching staffs have been the biggest difference, at least in the Army/Navy comparison, IMO. Comparing the post-playing day mission @ Army to the Naval Academy and AFA also puts West Point at a recruiting disadvantage compared to the other two, when FBS caliber recruits are deciding which branch of service has future appeal. Todd Berry had a nice balanced offense when he coached at Illinois State, but couldn't get the players he needed to make it work at Army. They turned to Rich Ellerson from Cal Poly to bring his successful triple option attack to Harvard on the Hudson, but he was stymied with many handcuffs including weight restrictions which really limited his offensive and defensive lines. They were/are too undersized to compete with most FBS squads, even running the option. I've already heard that Jeff Monken gained some changes once he took the job, that will bode well in his effort to improve the W/L record there, but it won't happen overnight. When Paul Johnson arrived at Navy in 2002 he already had a previous stint there and knew the subculture, and what needed to change. He's been successful at every stop, and Ken Niamatalolo has done a great job keeping that program on the rails. When Johnson left for Tech he took about half of the offensive staff and half of the defensive staff, leaving Ken with a nice balance of experience. Niamatalolo has also kept his staff pretty consistent and most of them learned under that Johnson coaching tree umbrella at various places. One other thing, both Army & Navy can divert a lot of folks to their prep schools and Navy has made it an art form in stockpiling potential talent. Citadel benefits from recruiting in the deep south, IMO ... though that benefit continues to wane as programs like ours, Kennesaw State, Georgia State and others ramp up their programs. The other poster's comments about the Rat Line @ VMI, and the knobs @ the Citadel make it particularly more difficult for them to keep their recruiting classes intact. Not to say that Plebe Year at the Naval Academy or West Point is a walk in the park.
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Post by mumd on Sept 22, 2014 5:38:14 GMT -5
Another "first" for Mercer this week: first SoCon road game. I'm so glad Coach has been to these places and knows what to expect. I think that's a huge deal.
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Post by jackal on Sept 22, 2014 11:08:12 GMT -5
Another "first" for Mercer this week: first SoCon road game. I'm so glad Coach has been to these places and knows what to expect. I think that's a huge deal. It has been a while. VMI left the SoCon after the 2002 season. So, Lamb's last game in Lexington would have been roughly 12 years ago. Obviously, he's been up there a bunch both as a player and as a coach at Furman. Only one game as a head coach, though. Saw VMI play a bit against Samford. Samford was clearly superior. I think the Keydets can sling it around a bit, so it should be a good road test for Mercer.
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Post by BearDownMU on Sept 22, 2014 11:14:58 GMT -5
On the stat sheet, the Freshman QB for VMI, Al Cobb, looks like the real deal. Should be interesting given our early susceptibility to the pass.
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