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Post by FUBeAR on Nov 7, 2016 13:56:34 GMT -5
There's still time to make up ground if your investment portfolio has taken a negative turn this season. Just increase your dollar contribution and you'll be back in the black in no time!
This Week's Investment Opportunities
Cumberland at East Tennessee State - Saturday, November 12, 2016 1:00 PM Cumberland +24 Over/Under 49½ Projected Score = about 37-13 MountainPirates
The Citadel at VMI - Saturday, November 12, 2016 1:30 PM The Citadel -17½ Over/Under 47½ Projected Score = about 33-15 Bellhops
Wofford at Chattanooga - Saturday, November 12, 2016 2:00 PM Wofford +7½ Over/Under 44½ Projected Score = about 26-19 SnakeBirdTrainShoes
Mercer at Samford - Saturday, November 12, 2016 3:30 PM Mercer +15½ Over/Under 70½ Projected Score = about 43-28 HomewoodHounds
Georgia Tech (former opponent) at Virginia Tech - Saturday, November 12, 2016 3:30 PM Georgia Tech +13½ Over/Under ? Projected Score = ?
Tennessee Tech (former opponent) at Tennessee State - Saturday, November 12, 2016 4:00 PM Tennessee Tech +2 Over/Under 60 Projected Score = 31-29 ElTigres
Western Carolina at Furman - Saturday, November 12, 2016 4:00 PM Western Carolina +6 Over/Under 55 Projected Score = about 31-24 Paladins
Eastern Kentucky at Austin Peay (former opponent) - Saturday, November 12, 2016 5:00 PM Eastern Kentucky -9½ Over/Under 65 Projected Score = about 37-28 Kernels
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Post by ursus on Nov 7, 2016 15:05:30 GMT -5
Since it's their Homecoming/Senior night I'm guessing we'll see a better crowd than what was at Wofford. If we're gonna have any shot at this game we're going to need the offense to be firing on all cylinders for four quarters. I don't think we've done that yet this year. Defense has been playing well except for a few mental mistakes, but as we saw last year those can add up to an avalanche of points quickly. If the offense doesn't show up then, 42-17 Samford. If we do play our best ball then 42-35 Mercer.
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Post by bear fan on Nov 7, 2016 20:36:13 GMT -5
Agree, all season we are first half or second half team on offense... never 4 quarters.
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Post by FUBeAR on Nov 7, 2016 20:51:45 GMT -5
Sorry Jim. I'm gonna talk about Playoffs! 1st - let's looks at the SoCon Standings at present... Team | SoCon Record | SoCon % | SoCon Home | SoCon Away | SoCon Streak | Overall Record | Overall % | Overall Home | Overall Away | Overall Neutral | Overall Streak | The Citadel | 7-0 | 1.000 | 4-0 | 3-0 | W7 | 9-0 | 1.000 | 4-0 | 5-0 | 0-0 | W9 | Chattanooga | 6-1 | .857 | 3-0 | 3-1 | W2 | 8-1 | .889 | 5-0 | 3-1 | 0-0 | W2 | Samford | 4-2 | .667 | 3-0 | 1-2 | L1 | 6-3 | .667 | 4-0 | 2-3 | 0-0 | L2 | Wofford | 4-2 | .667 | 2-1 | 2-1 | W2 | 6-3 | .667 | 3-1 | 3-2 | 0-0 | W2 | Mercer | 3-3 | .500 | 2-1 | 1-2 | W1 | 5-4 | .556 | 3-1 | 2-3 | 0-0 | W1 | Furman | 2-4 | .333 | 0-3 | 2-1 | L1 | 2-7 | .222 | 0-4 | 2-3 | 0-0 | L1 | VMI | 1-5 | .167 | 1-2 | 0-3 | L4 | 3-6 | .333 | 1-2 | 2-4 | 0-0 | L4 | ETSU | 1-6 | .143 | 0-2 | 0-4 | L6 | 3-6 | .333 | 1-2 | 1-4 | 1-0 | L2 | WCU | 1-6 | .143 | 1-3 | 0-2 | W1 | 2-7 | .222 | 2-3 | 0-3 | 0-1 | W1 |
A couple of premises before I begin the discussion of playoffs below: 1) Mercer must beat Samford this weekend 2) Chattanooga must beat Wofford this weekend 3) Mercer must beat Furman next weekend 4) The Citadel is a 'lock' for the Playoffs, as they have clinched the SoCon AutoBid, even if they lose to VMI & UNC to finish the season 7-1/9-2 5) Due to #2 above, Chattanooga is a 'lock' for the Playoffs even if they lose to Alabama to finish the season 7-1/9-2 If the first 2 things happen, then there will be a 3-way tie for 3rd place in the SoCon after this Saturday with Mercer, Samford, and Wofford all having beaten 1 of the 2 teams that are tied and having lost to the other (Mercer beat Sammy/lost to Woffy, Sammy beat Woffy/lost to Mercer, Woffy beat Mercer/lost to Sammy). The following weekend, Sammy plays ETSU and Woffy plays VMI. Let's assume those are both wins...for now. Again, we have already 'assumed' that Mercer beats Furman (#3 above). If we assume the SoCon only gets 2 teams in the Playoffs, then none of this matters (given #2 above) as El Cid and Chatt would be those Teams....but... What if the SoCon gets 3 Teams in the Playoffs? Assuming the 3-way tie, we have constructed, Samford would most likely get the 3rd bid, even with their head-to-head loss (that we have assumed) to a Mercer Team with the same Conference and Overall record, due to their current ranking, but more importantly, they have an OOC win over a (currently) highly-ranked (#10) 8-1 Central Arkansas Team. Now, there is a chance that win could lose some of its luster as UCA finishes with Nicholls State (who almost beat UGa) and #1 Ranked Sam Houston State, but the UCA Bears would still be 8-3 and that Samford win is going to 'trump' Mercer's and Sammy's best OOC win - both having a win over unranked 3-6, Tennessee Tech. But, let's look at it a different way. Wofford, in our scenario, would have the same Overall and SoCon record as Mercer and Samford, BUT 1 of Wofford's OOC wins is over Johnson C. Smith, a D2 Team, so they would only have 6 D1 Wins vs. Mercer's and Sammy's 7. D1 Wins is one of the stated criteria that the Selection Committee looks at, so, maybe, they say, "OK, 3 way tie for 3rd in the SoCon. How many D1 Wins does each Team have? OK, Woffy's, with only 6, is OUT then. Who won head-to-head between Mercer and Sammy? OK, Mercer's IN then." Will it work that way? I don't know. A lot of so-called FCS Bracketologists will say "NO!," but who knows what lurks in the hearts and minds of the Selection Committee? It COULD happen! ALSO - What if the SoCon gets 4 Teams in the Playoffs? Well, in the scenario we have set up, I think the Selection Committee would not leave a Sammy Team home with a win over UCA and a head-to-head win over Woffy, despite their (assumed in our scenario) loss to Mercer. Then, it, once again, goes back to a decision between which matters more between Woffy and Mercer - # of D1 wins or Head-to-Head result. As I said above, they could go either way on that. The simple solution, in the event this scenario plays out, is for the Committee to DO THE RIGHT THING and take 5 SoCon Teams!!! Oh yeah, back to Sammy and Woffy's final games. Assuming the scenario we set up (again), I don't see much of a possibility of Sammy losing to ETSU, but, if they did, they would be OUT. Not going to make the Playoffs with a 4-3/6-5 record and having lost their final 3 games. On the other hand, I could see Woffy, after losing to Chatt, dropping their final game to VMI...IF VMI's QB, Cobb, returns and is healthy. The Keydets have enough speed on Defense to stop Woffy's O and the AnkleBiters don't really play great pass D. VMI could, just possibly, sneak up on them as the LittleDogs limp to the finish line after 4 VERY physical games with The Citadel, Mercer, Furman, and Chatt. In the event, given our premises, if Sammy and Woffy both lose their final 2 games, Mercer SHOULD get the SoCon's 3rd Playoff spot. If either Woffy or Sammy lose their both of their last 2, Mercer SHOULD get the SoCon's 3rd/4th Playoff spot. A lot to think about, but STILL a lot to play for - for Mercer, Samford, and Wofford. You won't see most people, at this point, including Mercer with the other 2 in this type of discussion, but they SHOULD be. I don't care what Jim Mora says!
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Post by FUBeAR on Nov 7, 2016 21:19:19 GMT -5
Well, this is pretty AWESOME...and 'just a wee bit' more important than the FCS Playoffs. GREAT JOB CALEB!!!
Also - some of you may know that FUBeAR pays special attention to OLine play.
I've noticed, in the past 5 weeks, that Mr. Yates has been playing some EXCELLENT football.
Sometimes it does take a while for 'the light to come on' for a College Offensive Lineman. They CAN get the job done before it comes on, but it's a struggle...and it looks like it's a struggle. I know, in my case, it probably took about 5 years. In fact, some might say 'that bulb' was just defectively dim from the beginning and never did light. I like to think, though, when it did come on in that 5th year, the game changed for me. The game just seemed to 'slow down' and I really didn't worry about performing my assignment anymore. That became a 'given' and I was able to really enjoy playing and think about how I could do MORE than just make my block on each play.
Anyway, this young future BioMedical Engineer is really playing some good football now and that 'light' is getting brighter with each passing week. I would expect some All SoCon recognition to be coming his way soon, if not this year, then certainly in 2017!
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Post by FUBeAR on Nov 8, 2016 8:55:17 GMT -5
Samford Practice Report: Nov. 7, 2016Samford Game Notes: 2016 SAMFORD FOOTBALL - GAME 10 - MERCER - Nov. 12, 2016 - 2:30 p.m. (CT) Birmingham, Ala. Seibert Stadium (6,700)OFFENSE
QB 8 DEVLIN HODGES (6-1, 213, RS-So.) X 9 EMMANUEL OBAJIMI (6-0, 200, RS-Sr.) H 5 DEVON SCHMITT (6-4, 230, RS-Sr.) Y 6 KELVIN MCKNIGHT (5-8, 185, So.) Z 3 KAREL HAMILTON (6-1, 202, Sr.) F 14 JUSTIN CURRY (5-10, 205, RS-Fr.) LT 57 NICK NIXON (6-4, 260, Fr.) LG 62 ARMANDO BONHEUR (6-3, 305, RS-Sr.) C 58 GORDON CROZIER (6-1, 290, RS-Sr.) RG 75 ROYUS AMOS (6-7, 345, Sr.) RT 78 ANTWAN JOHNSON (6-6, 300, RS-So.) 6-4/300 AVG OL 6 R-SR/SR, 3 R-SO/SO, 2 R-FR/FR on Offense (including a TRUE FR starting at Left Tackle) DEFENSE STUD (This is the position FUBeAR used to play ) 99 AHMAD GOODEN (6-1, 240, RS-So.) DT 90 XAVIER FORREST (6-2, 280, Jr.) NG 91 JARED HOLLOWAY (6-0, 290, Sr.) DE 15 ROOSEVELT DONALDSON (6-2, 265, RS-Sr.) SLB 29 TONNE OSAIGBOVO (6-0, 220, RS-Sr.) MLB 44 DEION PIERRE (6-3, 230, Jr.) WLB 45 SHAHEED SALMON (6-1, 226, Jr.) CB 12 OMARI WILLIAMS (6-1, 190, Jr.) FS 27 JAMERSON BLOUNT (6-0, 180, Sr.) SS 46 CARTER MCMANES (6-0, 200, Jr.) CB 2 MARQUIS MCCULLUM (5-11, 188, RS-Jr.) 6-1/269 Average DL (They look bigger to me) 6-1/250 Front 7 4 R-SR/SR, 6 R-JR/JR, 1 R-SO
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Post by jackal on Nov 8, 2016 14:23:40 GMT -5
Just my meanderings.
SoCon's best case for 4 teams is for UTC/Wofford/Samford all to finish 8-3.
My guess prior to this week's games is that UTC/Samford/Citadel all make the field.
Mercer technically has a shot at 7-4, but I think a lot would have to break their way. Not just in the SoCon, but a lot of teams nationally would probably have to lose. Mercer is not currently receiving any votes in the Stats poll, and my general experience is that it is much harder to climb into the polls than to fall out of them. Hard to see an unranked 7 win Mercer team making the field unless they just beat the stuffing out of Samford and Furman.
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Post by FUBeAR on Nov 8, 2016 15:46:20 GMT -5
Just my meanderings. SoCon's best case for 4 teams is for UTC/Wofford/Samford all to finish 8-3. My guess prior to this week's games is that UTC/Samford/Citadel all make the field. Mercer technically has a shot at 7-4, but I think a lot would have to break their way. Not just in the SoCon, but a lot of teams nationally would probably have to lose. Mercer is not currently receiving any votes in the Stats poll, and my general experience is that it is much harder to climb into the polls than to fall out of them. Hard to see an unranked 7 win Mercer team making the field unless they just beat the stuffing out of Samford and Furman. Is the STATS poll an officially stated criteria used by the NCAA FCS Selection Committee to make their decisions on At-Large Teams? If Mercer finishes 7-4/5-3, Samford finishes 7-4/5-3, and Wofford finishes 7-4/5-3, with each having finished 1-1 vs. the other 2, please explain why Mercer would be the 'odd-team-out' with... 1) a Head-to-Head win over Samford 2) 1 more D1 win than Wofford (I believe the number of D1 wins is the only 'specific' criteria that is cited in the Selection Committees guidance. Correct?) 3) a better quality Overall win than Wofford (a win over highly-ranked Samford (in this scenario)) 4) an equal best OOC win with Wofford (their matching OOC wins over TTU) I understand... 1) ...that Samford is heavily favored over Mercer this Saturday and that, as most people are now looking ahead to the Playoffs, they are 'giving' Sammy that game and eliminating Mercer from the conversation to make those conversations more manageable. I'm doing the same thing eliminating ETSU and VMI from potentially beating Sammy and Woffy, respectively and assuming Woffy loses to Chatt. If you don't 'give' Sammy the game this weekend, the conversation DEFINITELY changes. 2) ...that Mercer is the 'new kid on the block,' and, therefore, doesn't merit the mentions that Wofford does among the So-Called Bracketologists in the FCS Media and Message Board Universe. But, none of those people are on the Selection Committee. If Mercer beats Samford and Furman, and the rest of the games play out as expected, Mercer has just as good a case to be the 3rd SoCon Team in the Playoffs as Sammy or Woffy do. Also, if that happens, and the Selection Committee decides that the Solomonic decision is to only take 2 Teams from the 2nd strongest Conference in FCS, while they take 3, 4, or 5 from the CAA and the Big Sky, then I will recommend a SOUTHERN Secession from the FCS and recruit my friends from El Cid to lead the charge in that pursuit. They've done that sort of thing before, y'know.
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Post by jackal on Nov 8, 2016 16:20:24 GMT -5
Just to briefly respond.
1. You are adding facts. I don't think Mercer gets in at 7-4 regardless of what Samford and Wofford do. I'm not making a comparison, just stating my opinion.
2. I do not think that either Wofford or Mercer will have the resume to get in at 7-4. That is particularly true if Wofford loses to UTC. Can you justify a 7-4 Wofford with zero wins over top 25 teams?
3. Wofford and Mercer both beat Tennessee Tech. Wofford played them on the road and beat them by a bigger margin.
4. Samford has a more impressive OOC win than both Wofford or Mercer by beating Central Arkansas.
5. I will never understand Wofford's scheduling. Yearly they seem to schedule themselves directly onto the playoff bubble.
I don't think anything has to do with Mercer being the new kid on the block. Wofford has a shot at 8 wins and a win over a top 10 team. Mercer does not. Wofford also beat Mercer.
Besides, all of this has a way of working itself out. It is interesting fan banter, but at the end of the day, Mercer has to go out and beat Samford (convincingly, in my opinion) to have any shot at all. So, at this stage, it is all academic.
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Post by FUBeAR on Nov 8, 2016 17:33:13 GMT -5
Just to briefly respond. 1. You are adding facts. I don't think Mercer gets in at 7-4 regardless of what Samford and Wofford do. I'm not making a comparison, just stating my opinion. 2. I do not think that either Wofford or Mercer will have the resume to get in at 7-4. That is particularly true if Wofford loses to UTC. Can you justify a 7-4 Wofford with zero wins over top 25 teams? 3. Wofford and Mercer both beat Tennessee Tech. Wofford played them on the road and beat them by a bigger margin. 4. Samford has a more impressive OOC win than both Wofford or Mercer by beating Central Arkansas. 5. I will never understand Wofford's scheduling. Yearly they seem to schedule themselves directly onto the playoff bubble. I don't think anything has to do with Mercer being the new kid on the block. Wofford has a shot at 8 wins and a win over a top 10 team. Mercer does not. Wofford also beat Mercer. Besides, all of this has a way of working itself out. It is interesting fan banter, but at the end of the day, Mercer has to go out and beat Samford (convincingly, in my opinion) to have any shot at all. So, at this stage, it is all academic. So....IF the 3 of them finish 7-4, are you saying that you think the SoCon will only get 2 Teams in the Playoffs? If you're not saying that, please do say what you think will happen if they all 3 finish 7-4. How many SoCon Teams get in and which ones?
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Post by bear fan on Nov 8, 2016 21:03:29 GMT -5
I totally agree with jackal we good football team but as this season winds down we won't be elite program until beat the teams at the top of the SOCON,,, the record speaks for itself.
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Post by FUBeAR on Nov 8, 2016 21:48:28 GMT -5
I totally agree with jackal we good football team but as this season winds down we won't be elite program until beat the teams at the top of the SOCON,,, the record speaks for itself. I hear ya, bear fan. One rule though: NEVER agree with Jackal!!! (Just Kidding - it's OK to agree with him whenever he says something positive about Mercer without the "She doesn't sweat much for a fat girl" tone to it.) On the elite 'thing'... Mercer has beaten Chattanooga. Mercer has been an eyelash away from beating El Cid all 3 years. Mercer took Woffy to OT last year Mercer played Sammy even for 3 quarters last year and within 3 points 2 years ago...and it remains to be seen what happens in this year's game. ...but you said, "beat," and I get that. Other than the 2015 win over Chatt, Mercer has not beaten the current teams at the top of the SoCon. 2 points though... 1) This season does not have to, necessarily, be 'winding down.' Beat Sammy & beat FU...and the "2nd Season" COULD be just starting...regardless of what Jackal and those "Bracketologists" are saying. 2) "Close" only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and in BUILDING a Football Program. Lack of depth on Offense, particularly, is still very much impacting Mercer's attempt to gain 'elite' status. And, that is still due to the BUILDING process. Only 3 Scholarship Recruiting Classes are on the field for Mercer this year ('14, '15, and '16 (those few of the '16 class that aren't redshirting)) and all 11 of their opponents this year have 5 recruiting classes on their rosters. The playing field won't be truly level until 5 classes have been signed...and even then, the 1st recruiting class or 2 could very well not be as talented as the 6th and 7th recruiting classes due to the 'newbie' factor of the Mercer program. While, on the 'close' theme - what do you think Mercer would have looked like this year if last year's leading rusher and excellent pass receiver out of the backfield, All SoCon RB, Tee Mitchell, had been available? Would he have been worth 2 points vs. El Cid? How about if 2015 All-SoCon Freshman WR/RB, Jimmie Robinson, were available? And, what if WR Avery Ward, along with the 2 I just mentioned, had been available vs. Woffy? Would they have made a difference in that outcome? All Teams struggle with injuries, etc. I get that...BUT, the effect on a depth-challenged Team is greatly magnified and that's what we've seen this Season. As you said, the record DOES speak for itself - 1 SoCon win in YR 1, 2 in YR 2, 3 (so far) in YR 3, while also upgrading the OOC schedule every year. That IS the definition of BUILDING. So...I would ask you, and other Bear Fans, to not lose heart just yet. Don't disrespect the legacy of those young men who came here in 2012, looking at only a mud hole that represented their Future Football Program, and set the tone for the Future by going 10-2 and were, much like this year (possibly), 2 wins away from making the FCS Playoffs. If the 2013 Team could have beaten Marist (as they didn't) and Stetson (as they did), they would have been the PFL Champions and in the FCS Playoffs in Year 1. They still have a chance to make it in Year 4. And, if they don't, this year's Team has certainly continued to BUILD on the foundation laid by those that came 1st, 'the Day 1's," and I expect they will add another level on that BUILDING in 2017! GET BEHIND YOUR BEARS AND HELP THEM CONTINUE TO BUILD SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL!
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Post by FUBeAR on Nov 9, 2016 6:28:31 GMT -5
Samford Practice Report: Nov. 8, 2016
Almost unbelievably, Mercer will be playing in its 5th Homecoming Game this season on Saturday. The Bears are 3-1 in Homecoming Games, so far, this season with wins @ VMI, @ Austin Peay, & vs. ETSU and a loss @ Chattanooga. Last week, ETSU's Head Coach made numerous mentions implying that it was a HUGE sign of disrespect when a Team schedules another Team for their Homecoming Game, as Mercer did with ETSU (after defeating the Buccaneers 52-0 in 2015). I've never heard of a Homecoming Game scheduled this late in the Season (the 10th game/final Home game) nor have I ever seen a Homecoming Game COMBINED with Senior Day as Samford is doing with this game against Mercer. Samford scheduled and has played D2 Mars Hill, and 2 of the traditional very-bottom-of-the-standings Teams in the SoCon, VMI & WCU, at home earlier this season, but CHOSE to schedule THIS GAME with Mercer as their Homecoming Game. I think that says plenty...and I know how I would feel about that if I were a Mercer Player.
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Post by FUBeAR on Nov 9, 2016 21:12:57 GMT -5
Samford Practice Report: Nov. 9, 2016
HOMEWOOD, Ala.—The 21st-ranked Samford football team practiced for about two hours in shells Wednesday afternoon at Seibert Stadium.
The Bulldogs are continuing to prepare for Saturday's homecoming game against Mercer. So far this season, Mercer is 5-4 overall and 3-3 in Southern Conference play. The Bears are coming off a 21-13 win over East Tennessee State last week.
The Mercer offense averages 383.6 total yards per game (219.0 passing, 164.6 rushing).
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Post by FUBeAR on Nov 9, 2016 22:58:07 GMT -5
FUBeAR's SoCon Power Ratings (from my post on the National FCS Board... Power Rankings (Picks later...) - Apologies for getting these out late this week (I'll blame Election Day)...As in prior weeks, the esteemed David Wilson is Ranking the Top 5 in the SoCon and FUBeAR is sorting out the bottom 4. Wilson National Ranking | TEAM | W | L | Wilson Rating | FUBeAR Comment | 1
| The Citadel | 9 | 0 | 880 | The Bellhops appear to be ALL THAT and a Bag... | 4 | Chattanooga | 8 | 1 | 817 | They've been resting. Is Craine ready to take on the Terriers? | 8 | Samford | 6 | 3 | 781 | Offensive Firepower sweeping the ALBulldos in the 'mix.' | 12 | Wofford | 6 | 3 | 754 | Emulating El Cid and FINDING ways to win the past 2 weeks | 21 | Mercer | 5 | 4 | 726 | Battling for Playoff contention with a depleted Offense | FUBeAR National Ranking | TEAM | W | L | FUBeAR Rating | FUBeAR Comment | >21 | Furman | 2 | 7 | <726 | Challenged #12 Woffy, but came up short in the end | >22 | WCU | 2 | 7 | <727 | Pulled it together for nice win over VMI | >23 | VMI | 3 | 6 | <728 | Still Cobb-less? Offense struggles without him in the game | >24 | ETSU | 3 | 6 | <729 | Fought to keep it close with Mercer. Will surprise some Teams...next year! |
I like it - 3 SoCon Teams in contention for 1st Round Byes/Seeds and 5 clearly in contention to make the Playoffs. That sounds like the right # of SoCon Teams to me. Here are Mr. Wilson's Conference Strength Rankings as of this week... National Ranking | Conference | Wilson Average Conference Rating | 1 | Missouri Valley Football Conference | 741 | 2 | Southern Conference | 732 | 3T | Big Sky Conference | 675 | 3T | Colonial Athletic Association | 675 | 5 | Big South Conference | 667 | 6 | Ohio Valley Conference | 644 | 7 | Southland Conference | 625 | 8 | Patriot League | 599 | 9 | Ivy League | 595 | 10 | Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference | 567 | 11 | Northeast Conference | 566 | 12 | Pioneer Football League | 527 | 13 | Southwestern Athletic Conference | 511 |
SoCon fell to 2nd before last week, but is a WHOLE lot closer to 'catching' the MVFC (-9 Avg Rating Points) than falling to the CAA and Big Sky level (57 Avg Rating Points higher than both)
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