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Post by pappabear84 on Feb 15, 2015 12:05:38 GMT -5
I had the opportunity to go see the practice, and scrimmage game on Saturday, which turned out to be a beautiful day for football. The Bears appear to have a strong a enthusiastic practice. One of the highlights of the practice was this drill that they did similar to the old gauntlet drill. which featured the Defense against offense. The players lined up on each side from about 10 - 15 yards outside the end zone. and man it was intense. Defensive battle to stop offense from getting into the end zone. This was a hyped up drill with hard hitting, while it was hard to tell who was winning, you could hear the popping, and excitement from each side.
This lead to a good scrimmage game. As I could tell the defense was of course ahead of the offense, and the hitting was ferocious, as their were several big plays made. Good opportunity to see many players get at it, that were red shirted last year, and to see players that were hurt last year, but I especially like the strength of our line backer core, these guys were all making big plays. As for the Offense, while they ran limited plays they were consistent with all groups 1 - 3 getting play time. I thought the passing game was fresh and impressive. The O line from all groups look good, and while we scored 2 - 1 on the defense, it was very competitive to watch. The DB's and WR's got at it pretty good.
Great Day to spend in the Bear's Den.
Bear Fans should come out next weekend weather permitting, as this should give another good look at the intensity of the spring practice.
Great Day for "Chili Bowl Scrimmage Game" with Nabisco Crackers!!!!! LOL Congratulations to 84 - Avery Ward as it was his Birthday- And he got 2 TD's, Great gift from the Defense, Lol.
Would love to hear thoughts from other of the scrimmage.
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Post by FUBeAR on Feb 15, 2015 23:17:57 GMT -5
I had the opportunity to go see the practice, and scrimmage game on Saturday, which turned out to be a beautiful day for football. The Bears appear to have a strong a enthusiastic practice. One of the highlights of the practice was this drill that they did similar to the old gauntlet drill. which featured the Defense against offense. The players lined up on each side from about 10 - 15 yards outside the end zone. and man it was intense. Defensive battle to stop offense from getting into the end zone. This was a hyped up drill with hard hitting, while it was hard to tell who was winning, you could hear the popping, and excitement from each side.
This lead to a good scrimmage game. As I could tell the defense was of course ahead of the offense, and the hitting was ferocious, as their were several big plays made. Good opportunity to see many players get at it, that were red shirted last year, and to see players that were hurt last year, but I especially like the strength of our line backer core, these guys were all making big plays. As for the Offense, while they ran limited plays they were consistent with all groups 1 - 3 getting play time. I thought the passing game was fresh and impressive. The O line from all groups look good, and while we scored 2 - 1 on the defense, it was very competitive to watch. The DB's and WR's got at it pretty good.
Great Day to spend in the Bear's Den.
Bear Fans should come out next weekend weather permitting, as this should give another good look at the intensity of the spring practice.
Great Day for "Chili Bowl Scrimmage Game" with Nabisco Crackers!!!!! LOL Congratulations to 84 - Avery Ward as it was his Birthday- And he got 2 TD's, Great gift from the Defense, Lol.
Would love to hear thoughts from other of the scrimmage.
Great recap. I don't have anything to add. Beautiful day on a beautiful campus watching some great young men having fun playing the game they love. Definitely lots of talent out there! OK - 1 thing...I was impressed with the 'extra-curriculars' during the 4-on-4 and occasionally during the scrimmage. I'm totally opposed to that stuff in the Fall during practice and, OF COURSE, NEVER during games. BUT...IMHO, during Spring Practice when guys should be FIGHTING for a job and there are no ref's on the field, they need to have that 'take-no-prisoners' mind-set - "We can [and should] be friends & teammates after practice...but on the field, during Spring, you are my enemy." Glad to see the Coaches allowing some of that during Spring. Just gotta rein it in during the Fall, and, ABSOLUTELY cannot allow any of it during games. I think that - the "OK" sometimes, but "NOT OK" at other times during practice, teaches players how to play with that CONTROLLED AGGRESSION/FURY that takes the will out of their opponents on Saturdays.
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Post by badnewsbear on Feb 16, 2015 9:45:42 GMT -5
I had the opportunity to go see the practice, and scrimmage game on Saturday, which turned out to be a beautiful day for football. The Bears appear to have a strong a enthusiastic practice. One of the highlights of the practice was this drill that they did similar to the old gauntlet drill. which featured the Defense against offense. The players lined up on each side from about 10 - 15 yards outside the end zone. and man it was intense. Defensive battle to stop offense from getting into the end zone. This was a hyped up drill with hard hitting, while it was hard to tell who was winning, you could hear the popping, and excitement from each side.
This lead to a good scrimmage game. As I could tell the defense was of course ahead of the offense, and the hitting was ferocious, as their were several big plays made. Good opportunity to see many players get at it, that were red shirted last year, and to see players that were hurt last year, but I especially like the strength of our line backer core, these guys were all making big plays. As for the Offense, while they ran limited plays they were consistent with all groups 1 - 3 getting play time. I thought the passing game was fresh and impressive. The O line from all groups look good, and while we scored 2 - 1 on the defense, it was very competitive to watch. The DB's and WR's got at it pretty good.
Great Day to spend in the Bear's Den.
Bear Fans should come out next weekend weather permitting, as this should give another good look at the intensity of the spring practice.
Great Day for "Chili Bowl Scrimmage Game" with Nabisco Crackers!!!!! LOL Congratulations to 84 - Avery Ward as it was his Birthday- And he got 2 TD's, Great gift from the Defense, Lol.
Would love to hear thoughts from other of the scrimmage.
Great recap. I don't have anything to add. Beautiful day on a beautiful campus watching some great young men having fun playing the game they love. Definitely lots of talent out there! OK - 1 thing...I was impressed with the 'extra-curriculars' during the 4-on-4 and occasionally during the scrimmage. I'm totally opposed to that stuff in the Fall during practice and, OF COURSE, NEVER during games. BUT...IMHO, during Spring Practice when guys should be FIGHTING for a job and there are no ref's on the field, they need to have that 'take-no-prisoners' mind-set - "We can [and should] be friends & teammates after practice...but on the field, during Spring, you are my enemy." Glad to see the Coaches allowing some of that during Spring. Just gotta rein it in during the Fall, and, ABSOLUTELY cannot allow any of it during games. I think that - the "OK" sometimes, but "NOT OK" at other times during practice, teaches players how to play with that CONTROLLED AGGRESSION/FURY that takes the will out of their opponents on Saturdays. Interested point; we were definitely "chippy" last year and I kind of like it. You could tell it really ticked Furman off and made a point that we aren't backing down no matter who we are playing. I like the attitude and am happy to see it starts as early as spring, but I don't think it will stop at game time and I am fine with that if it gives us a mental edge.
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Post by FUBeAR on Feb 16, 2015 14:43:32 GMT -5
Great recap. I don't have anything to add. Beautiful day on a beautiful campus watching some great young men having fun playing the game they love. Definitely lots of talent out there! OK - 1 thing...I was impressed with the 'extra-curriculars' during the 4-on-4 and occasionally during the scrimmage. I'm totally opposed to that stuff in the Fall during practice and, OF COURSE, NEVER during games. BUT...IMHO, during Spring Practice when guys should be FIGHTING for a job and there are no ref's on the field, they need to have that 'take-no-prisoners' mind-set - "We can [and should] be friends & teammates after practice...but on the field, during Spring, you are my enemy." Glad to see the Coaches allowing some of that during Spring. Just gotta rein it in during the Fall, and, ABSOLUTELY cannot allow any of it during games. I think that - the "OK" sometimes, but "NOT OK" at other times during practice, teaches players how to play with that CONTROLLED AGGRESSION/FURY that takes the will out of their opponents on Saturdays. Interested point; we were definitely "chippy" last year and I kind of like it. You could tell it really ticked Furman off and made a point that we aren't backing down no matter who we are playing. I like the attitude and am happy to see it starts as early as spring, but I don't think it will stop at game time and I am fine with that if it gives us a mental edge. See...that's where folks - kids, fans, and even some coaches 'get off track,' IMHO. Mercer proved they won't back down from anyone last year. Fine, point proved. I hope the Bears goal is to prove they can win more SoCon games and a SoCon Championship in 2015. Mercer lost an outstanding player for 2 games because he was 'chippy' in the FU game...I've watched that video very, very closely and despite my FU freens who will jump on here and disagree - he was responding to some ridiculousness that an FU player (I could name him and call his number, but I won't) started on a Mercer KOR...but that YoungBear missed the rest of that game and the whole next game....As a FR, he needed to be getting all the game reps he could get - not standing on the sidelines. Doing anything like that which is flagged during a game is stupid. Retaliating is really stupid - 2nd guy always gets caught. Yards are too hard to come by. Plays are too hard to execute to be called back. Defensive stops are too critical to have overturned. A team that is razor-thin, in terms of depth, can't afford to have PLAYERS not playing. Truly SMART players can play NASTY without ever drawing a flag for Unsportsmanlike or After-the-whistle tom-foolery....if they know how to CONTROL their aggression/fury. Yes - it was 100 years ago, but I played on a college team of 'thugs' (on the field, only...for the most part), but everyone (except our opponents) thought we played like Choir Boys and only won (many games & championships) because of our precision execution. That we executed precisely was usually true, but mostly, we won because we TOOK our opponents' will to win....by playing NASTY. It takes a lot of self-control...but the end results are worth it. DAP's, lost yards, called back TD's, ejections, and suspensions...are not.
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Post by jackal on Feb 17, 2015 7:50:15 GMT -5
Pretty simple, really. When the whistle blows, knock it off.
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Post by FUBeAR on Feb 17, 2015 11:18:58 GMT -5
Pretty simple, really. When the whistle blows, knock it off. Sounds simple...but it's not, really. 1) Great Players & Winning Teams play through the 'echo of the whistle'...they don't stop when the whistle blows...there's a notable difference. 2) When the opponent does not "knock it off" at the whistle, how a team responds can change the outcome of games.
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Post by jackal on Feb 17, 2015 14:59:47 GMT -5
Pretty simple, really. When the whistle blows, knock it off. Sounds simple...but it's not, really. 1) Great Players & Winning Teams play through the 'echo of the whistle'...they don't stop when the whistle blows...there's a notable difference. 2) When the opponent does not "knock it off" at the whistle, how a team responds can change the outcome of games. I imagine most unsportsmanlike penalties are not handed out based on the echo of the whistle. I imagine they are handed out when the play is simply over. Like the Supreme Court's definition of pornography - "I know it when I see it." I did not pay enough attention to know who started the antics in the Mercer/Furman game. Interestingly, Mercer's version of the box score does not have any reference to an ejection or disqualification (at least none that I can find). Furman's box score does. I've done stupid things in football games. I am sure you have as well. Probably should have been ejected a time or two. I imagine that will be the last time that happens to him.
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Post by FUBeAR on Feb 17, 2015 23:49:45 GMT -5
Sounds simple...but it's not, really. 1) Great Players & Winning Teams play through the 'echo of the whistle'...they don't stop when the whistle blows...there's a notable difference. 2) When the opponent does not "knock it off" at the whistle, how a team responds can change the outcome of games. I've done stupid things in football games. I am sure you have as well. Not from 1979-1983, I didn't...because I (and my teammates) knew the severe consequences of getting an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, regardless of whatever justification there may have been for it. I would love for someone to check the records. I believe we had 1, in 1979...a DLman and Team Captain...and that's it; no others thru 1983. Not sure when the next one was, but I would bet it didn't come until after the 1985 season. Hold on...I just remembered...I did get one. I broke the huddle for the 1st play of the game and the Appy DLman met me as soon as I turned around (7 yards on our side of the LOS) and shoved me. I pushed him away when he did that, but it happened directly in front of our bench and our Head Coach...so he did give me somewhat of 'a pass' on that one (only a ridiculous amount of extra running; not the completely insane amount) since the Homer Ref called offsetting....7 yards on our side of the LOS...BEFORE we even broke the huddle! AND "I imagine they are handed out when the play is simply over." - You know it's not Freeze Tag out there, right? An average play takes 6 seconds. Games are often won or lost in what happens in that 1 second between 5.5 and 6.5 seconds x about 150 plays or so.
Like the Supreme Court's definition of pornography - "I know it when I see it." - Exactly my point - The 'Glory Days Story' above excepted, you, and the other fans...and, most importantly, the Refs DON'T (& DIDN'T) see that 'little something extra' - Football Lagniappe, if you will, that involves truly finishing plays! Yeah, with absolute hustle and an unrelenting desire to dominate your opponent (ala Conan the Barbarian's response to the question, "What is best in life?")...but also with the 'will-stealing' remarks made to your opponent while helping him up after you just put him on his back; 'table-topping' a DLman over his own teammate lying on the ground just after the ball is thrown - perfectly legal; telling an opponent exactly where the ball is going on a play, what blocking technique you are going to use on him, and he still can't stop it (ala Billy Jack vis a vis Bernard), legally cutting an opponent after you have already blocked him and the ball is gone, but he has to pursue cuz his Coach will be on his azz in films if he doesn't (the block that keeps on blocking - he pays for it on Saturday AND in films); coming up to the line and talking about a test you have in Statistics next week with your line-mate, acting as if you're not even thinking about the game and then blowing up the DLman with a double team; blocking an edge-protector whose Coach has told him "DON'T get reached!" and letting him run himself to the sidelines (hopefully his own), while the ball goes back inside him, and then using his own momentum, mostly, to carry him 3 'rows' deep into his own teammates on the sidelines (that's A LOT of fun and embarrassing as heck for the opponent). These are all true, were frequently practiced, and are just a few of the OL 'games' that were played. Each position had their own 'games' that you also don't/didn't see....if they are smart and if they play with controlled aggression. These things take away the opponents' hearts. Pseudo-Macho Posturing and Retaliating takes away yards, plays, scores, and even Players.
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Post by jackal on Feb 18, 2015 9:30:07 GMT -5
I think you would be the type that would like this Horst kid Furman signed out of Cincinnati. www.hudl.com/athlete/1679352/highlights/161709377/v2The "whistle line" is a fine one, but there's a guy that puts his man down, and keeps driving him until he's about six inches under the turf.
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