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Post by johnmoc1 on Mar 4, 2015 21:28:58 GMT -5
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Post by johnmoc1 on Mar 5, 2015 19:32:45 GMT -5
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Post by johnmoc1 on Mar 6, 2015 22:32:52 GMT -5
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Post by johnmoc1 on Mar 6, 2015 22:48:13 GMT -5
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Post by FUBeAR on Mar 7, 2015 1:52:02 GMT -5
ADMIN - Please delete this obscene post |
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Post by FUBeAR on Mar 7, 2015 21:52:18 GMT -5
"The Keydets squeak out a very close win. Keydets 76, Bears 75." Keydets will need win this HALF 56 - 33 for this prediction to come true. It could happen with 1 of Mercer's best players, Moten, injured, but the Bears MAULED the 'Roos in the 1st half. Just need to finish. |
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Post by johnmoc1 on Mar 7, 2015 22:46:12 GMT -5
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Post by johnmoc1 on Mar 7, 2015 22:53:06 GMT -5
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Post by johnmoc1 on Mar 9, 2015 0:49:17 GMT -5
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Post by johnmoc1 on Mar 9, 2015 1:10:15 GMT -5
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Post by johnmoc1 on Mar 9, 2015 21:08:38 GMT -5
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Post by FUBeAR on Mar 10, 2015 1:50:38 GMT -5
"It is completely fair to ask if Acox had played a full game if Furman would have been able to come up with the win." Don't disagree with anything you said. Proud of & happy for FU Hoops. Loving their coaching, hustle, & resiliency. Coach Hoffman's post-game comments after the FU game were spot-on...and he's too classy of a Coach to even mention the question I am willing to 'submit' since you cited Acox's injury (quote above) & the potential impact that may have had on the Championship Game. Is it completely fair to ask if Mercer's All-SoCon player, Darius Moten, wasn't out & if Jelks wasn't playing on only one foot for most of the game, would Mercer have been in the Championship Game vs. Wofford? BTW - In response to the question you raised, I think if Acox plays the whole game, uninjured, vs. Wofford, the 'Dins would be dancin'! |
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Post by jackal on Mar 11, 2015 9:34:43 GMT -5
"It is completely fair to ask if Acox had played a full game if Furman would have been able to come up with the win." Don't disagree with anything you said. Proud of & happy for FU Hoops. Loving their coaching, hustle, & resiliency. Coach Hoffman's post-game comments after the FU game were spot-on...and he's too classy of a Coach to even mention the question I am willing to 'submit' since you cited Acox's injury (quote above) & the potential impact that may have had on the Championship Game. Is it completely fair to ask if Mercer's All-SoCon player, Darius Moten, wasn't out & if Jelks wasn't playing on only one foot for most of the game, would Mercer have been in the Championship Game vs. Wofford? BTW - In response to the question you raised, I think if Acox plays the whole game, uninjured, vs. Wofford, the 'Dins would be dancin'! Injuries happen. Gotta deal with it. Acox's injury was notable for one particular reason--rebounds. Acox is arguably the best rebounder in the SoCon. Once he went out, Wofford was able to really go to work inside and had 18 second chance points to Furman's 5. In a three point ball game, Acox would have made a monumental difference. I don't think the Moten injury was as critical. Mercer is better than Furman. They have a deeper bench and a deeper rotation. Sure, it hurts to lose a key piece, but 1:1 comparison, Acox means more to Furman, I think, than Moten does to Mercer. Put another way, Mercer could have beaten Furman without Moten. I don't think Furman would have beaten Mercer without Acox. |
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Post by FUBeAR on Mar 11, 2015 11:58:06 GMT -5
"It is completely fair to ask if Acox had played a full game if Furman would have been able to come up with the win." Don't disagree with anything you said. Proud of & happy for FU Hoops. Loving their coaching, hustle, & resiliency. Coach Hoffman's post-game comments after the FU game were spot-on...and he's too classy of a Coach to even mention the question I am willing to 'submit' since you cited Acox's injury (quote above) & the potential impact that may have had on the Championship Game. Is it completely fair to ask if Mercer's All-SoCon player, Darius Moten, wasn't out & if Jelks wasn't playing on only one foot for most of the game, would Mercer have been in the Championship Game vs. Wofford? BTW - In response to the question you raised, I think if Acox plays the whole game, uninjured, vs. Wofford, the 'Dins would be dancin'! Injuries happen. Gotta deal with it. Acox's injury was notable for one particular reason--rebounds. Acox is arguably the best rebounder in the SoCon. Once he went out, Wofford was able to really go to work inside and had 18 second chance points to Furman's 5. In a three point ball game, Acox would have made a monumental difference. I don't think the Moten injury was as critical. Mercer is better than Furman. They have a deeper bench and a deeper rotation. Sure, it hurts to lose a key piece, but 1:1 comparison, Acox means more to Furman, I think, than Moten does to Mercer. Put another way, Mercer could have beaten Furman without Moten. I don't think Furman would have beaten Mercer without Acox. "Injuries happen. Gotta deal with it."...agreed...in all sports. I think Acox is a really, really good player and brings more than rebounds to the 'Dins. I think he significantly impacts the game on both ends of the floor with his rebounding, yes, but also his O & D, and his 'court presence.' As I said, if he plays vs. the LittleDogs and plays the way he's been playing, 'Dins are dancin' in Dayton! (and I'd be very happy about that!) But...if one raises the question of 'what could have been' without his injury, as johnmoc1 did, in regard to Acox vs. Woffy...then I think it's worth extending that line of thought and thinking about/discussing 'what might have been' in the prior game. I think your comments may be correct IF it were just Moten out, but with Jelks, who (I believe) was playing the #4 position replacing Moten, 'dragging his hind leg' the whole game (played with a dislocated big toe), Mercer was trying to use a #2 who has not played that position, Lawrence Brown, as a #4, which really impacted their rebounding, their motion/plays on offense, and their Team defense. So...I'm thinking if Moten OR Jelks are 100%, Mercer probably wins that close game. Of course, they weren't and they didn't...and it doesn't matter...as with the Acox injury...all a bunch of "what mighta been" that is part of all sports and is (to me) interesting (if not fun) to discuss and consider. BTW & FWIW...I did see someone affiliated with FU athletics (someone more 'official' than a fan, but not an FU employee per se...and I'll leave it at that) 'rejoicing' on Twitter over Moten's injury (cited the fracture - so this person knew the extent of the injury) prior to the FU/MU game and I was very disappointed to see that from someone affiliated with my Alma Mater. An outstanding young man fractured his elbow - a very serious injury that could affect his potential pro career and will, undoubtedly, be a source of aches and pains as he ages (I speak from experience!). I truly hope that ain't anyone's idea of good fortune or "stars aligning." I could see saying something like that if he just 'tweaked' an ankle or pulled a hammy, but not with this type of injury. I do hope someone who is an actual employee of FU Athletics saw that Tweet and discusses it with this individual. Prayers that Mr. Moten and Mr. Acox fully recover from their injuries quickly and have no long-term affects from those injuries. |
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Post by jackal on Mar 11, 2015 12:26:07 GMT -5
Right. You and I are agreement that you have to dance with who is there.
It is a fun game to dissect, and frankly, the two teams had already played two close games earlier in the season. I think Mercer was a more veteran team and closed out those games, but I think Furman isn't too far behind in terms of pure talent on the court. Hard to beat a team three times in the same season.
Just from my view, Acox appeared to make life tough on TJ Hallice. I think that was the difference in the game. Acox is a type of player that I have seen have a lot of success in the SoCon -- shorter athletic post players with big physical bodies. Reminds me a bit of UTC's Z. Mason, last year's POTY and Lee Skinner from Wofford. I can only imagine those guys are terrors to play against.
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