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Post by 95sacks on Oct 26, 2015 14:27:39 GMT -5
Just my view from the BIG picture of a school that has great academic brand and has won in basketball and baseball etc, but it sure does not belong at the bottom of SOCON. which is where its headed..Captain Keeping it 100.
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Post by BearDownMU on Oct 26, 2015 15:31:00 GMT -5
Just my view from the BIG picture of a school that has great academic brand and has won in basketball and baseball etc, but it sure does not belong at the bottom of SOCON. which is where its headed..Captain Keeping it 100. I'm not sure I fully understand this. You're contention is the school is headed to the bottom of the Socon? Or just football? |
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Post by LizellaLizard on Oct 26, 2015 16:30:10 GMT -5
This is a ridiculous idea at this point. Second season with scholarships. The Southern Conference is a huge step up from the PFL. If you want to evaluate the program's direction after next year, fine, but Lamb is still building the Bears and I see no reason to go with someone else at this point. WE NEED TWO THINGS! #1- A OC #2- A Kicking Coach PS-Adidas clad teams only winning 43% of games (4th), 1-UnderArmor 63%,2-Russell 58%,3-Nike 53%- Heck try anything right |
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Post by chez23 on Oct 26, 2015 20:59:40 GMT -5
Not trying to be mean or anything, but talking about replacing the staff at this point is just silly. Looking at replacements at the end of this year if we don't win another game this SEASON is silly. But for the sake of silly, if all of the above is true about Brent Key, why in the world would he come to Mercer? Are "top assistant coaches in the country" looking to go from FBS to head coaching an FCS school that's played 3 years worth of games? No. Also, Brent Key is making $300K a year. So that should settle that. lol If Lamb goes 1-13 in SOCON play over two years is his job safe? MU loses all the tight games....when is it a coaching issue? MU has talent, but are they getting better each year.....?? To take a FCS HC job over an assistant coach job at a lower level FBS school may be a good option. Plus an FCS program in one of the best states in the country to recruit isn't a bad spot to go to. Key comes to MU and wins a few SOCON titles in 4 years then that would look very good on his resume and would get him looks for HC in FBS. MU can afford him as well. I know this wont happen but how long can Lamb stay here if they keep losing.....especially the way they are losing. |
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Post by jackal on Oct 26, 2015 21:38:04 GMT -5
I would respond to this, but it is too silly to even talk about.
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Post by BearDownMU on Oct 26, 2015 23:00:26 GMT -5
You think MU would pay him $350K? That's kinda funny.
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Post by BearDownMU on Oct 26, 2015 23:07:48 GMT -5
Have you ever considered that us being this close in these games is actually a pretty amazing achievement, and not that losing close ones means we should fire the staff?
On what planet do you think a school with exactly 2 recruiting years with the ability to give scholarships should come into to one of the more storied FCS (Div II) conferences in the country and just start whipping people?
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Post by jackal on Oct 27, 2015 5:30:54 GMT -5
Have you ever considered that us being this close in these games is actually a pretty amazing achievement, and not that losing close ones means we should fire the staff? On what planet do you think a school with exactly 2 recruiting years with the ability to give scholarships should come into to one of the more storied FCS (Div II) conferences in the country and just start whipping people? I would suggest going back to look at UTC's record during Russ Huseman's first few years. They lost virtually every game by 7 points or less for several seasons. |
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Post by chez23 on Oct 27, 2015 9:23:16 GMT -5
You all are missing the point. If MU wants to be a power in the SOCON then it needs to be making progress each year. Is there progress so far this year? MU has a good chance of not winning one SOCON game this year and only 1 in tow years. If accepting being "close" is a victory for the program then MU will have a tough time developing into a SOCON power. The loss to VMI last week was unacceptable. Start accepting this moral victories and the program will never improve. MU made a big committed to football....need to start winning SOCON games. My fear is losing these close conference games becomes accepted because MU, the 3 year old program "almost" won.
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Post by chez23 on Oct 27, 2015 9:31:54 GMT -5
What have the spreads been for all the MU games this year?
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Post by jackal on Oct 27, 2015 10:35:46 GMT -5
You all are missing the point. If MU wants to be a power in the SOCON then it needs to be making progress each year. Is there progress so far this year? MU has a good chance of not winning one SOCON game this year and only 1 in tow years. If accepting being "close" is a victory for the program then MU will have a tough time developing into a SOCON power. The loss to VMI last week was unacceptable. Start accepting this moral victories and the program will never improve. MU made a big committed to football....need to start winning SOCON games. My fear is losing these close conference games becomes accepted because MU, the 3 year old program "almost" won. It appears you are not going to be convinced that your position is misguided. Every team wants to have great seasons. Every team wants to be competitive. It takes years sometimes to get to the level of being a "power" team in the conference. UTC went literally decades between being relevant in SoCon football, and you expect Mercer to do it in a season and a half? Elon had won national titles in NAIA as a program before coming up and getting their teeth kicked in every Saturday in the SoCon. Rome was not built in a day. Yes, Mercer made a big commitment to football. in spite of that big commitment, Mercer is now relatively even to where their conference peers have been for years. It is not as though they made a huge investment in football and left the rest of the SoCon behind. They made a huge investment and football and pulled level to where SoCon teams have already long been. |
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Post by BearDownMU on Oct 27, 2015 10:51:25 GMT -5
UTC is also a public school with 12,000 students and (I'm guessing) prolly doesn't have the academic requirement constraints that the Mercers and Furmans of the world contend with.
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Post by jackal on Oct 27, 2015 13:36:22 GMT -5
UTC is also a public school with 12,000 students and (I'm guessing) prolly doesn't have the academic requirement constraints that the Mercers and Furmans of the world contend with. Negative. UTC used to take just about any transfer that got kicked off UTK's football team. They had the best athletes and the worst team in the conference for a long time. The conference has changed a great deal recently. The admission requirements at Furman, Samford, Wofford, the Citadel, Mercer, and VMI are no rubber stamp. |
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Post by 95sacks on Oct 27, 2015 14:37:43 GMT -5
I agree with chez23 on expectations to win now, because we can, what program out the socon since Ga.Southern has been a elite FCS program? GSU won from day 1 and never looked back,Mercer has similiar factors going for it, true our academics benchmarks are higher, however no one expected 2014 to be such a competitive year right out the gate therefore 2015 expectations should not be lower, other teams in the SOCON knows with one more class of players on this roster next year the hardware is coming SOONER not later, with the Ga HS talent pipeline.Our model should be Statesboro not UTC.
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Post by chez23 on Oct 27, 2015 15:16:23 GMT -5
You all are missing the point. If MU wants to be a power in the SOCON then it needs to be making progress each year. Is there progress so far this year? MU has a good chance of not winning one SOCON game this year and only 1 in tow years. If accepting being "close" is a victory for the program then MU will have a tough time developing into a SOCON power. The loss to VMI last week was unacceptable. Start accepting this moral victories and the program will never improve. MU made a big committed to football....need to start winning SOCON games. My fear is losing these close conference games becomes accepted because MU, the 3 year old program "almost" won. It appears you are not going to be convinced that your position is misguided. Every team wants to have great seasons. Every team wants to be competitive. It takes years sometimes to get to the level of being a "power" team in the conference. UTC went literally decades between being relevant in SoCon football, and you expect Mercer to do it in a season and a half? Elon had won national titles in NAIA as a program before coming up and getting their teeth kicked in every Saturday in the SoCon. Rome was not built in a day. Yes, Mercer made a big commitment to football. in spite of that big commitment, Mercer is now relatively even to where their conference peers have been for years. It is not as though they made a huge investment in football and left the rest of the SoCon behind. They made a huge investment and football and pulled level to where SoCon teams have already long been. |
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