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Post by FUBeAR on Jan 19, 2016 16:25:33 GMT -5
Mercer Football Leveraging DigitalStay tuned to this thread for the obligatory post by Jackal about this article. He will grudgingly provide a brief compliment to Mercer (as the article glowingly does) and then proceed to dishing out 3 or 4 oh-so-subtle ''disses" intimating a one-sidedness, and/or a lack of dignity, and/or a misguided use of resources, etc. ...wait for it...
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Post by jackal on Jan 20, 2016 6:47:51 GMT -5
Mercer's digital sports marketing is impressive. It wouldn't shock me if their budget for such things was 5 times that of any other SoCon school. I don't know what the return on investment is.
Mercer is dealing with different issues not common to other conference schools. They are trying to build a fan base. They are trying to break into a market as Middle Georgia's team dominated by University of Georgia. Mercer certainly goes all in when they decide to do something. That is certainly an admirable quality.
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Post by FUBeAR on Jan 20, 2016 15:04:18 GMT -5
They are trying to build a fan base. They are trying to break into a market as Middle Georgia's team...  Date Time Opponent Site Attendance - Capacity % (Capacity = 10,200) September 12 6:00 PM Stetson Moye Complex • Macon, GA 11,267 110%October 3 6:00 PM Wofford Moye Complex • Macon, GA 10,489 103%October 17 4:00 PM East Tennessee State Moye Complex • Macon, GA 9,722 95%October 24 3:00 PM VMI Moye Complex • Macon, GA 9,754 96%November 7 4:00 PM Chattanooga Moye Complex • Macon, GA 9,527 93%November 21 3:00 PM Samford Moye Complex • Macon, GA 11,273 111%
TOTAL = 62,032
AVERAGE = 10,339
AVERAGE TO CAPACITY = 101%
% TO CAPACITY RANK IN SOCON = #1 (by far!)
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Post by jackal on Jan 20, 2016 15:43:06 GMT -5
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Post by FUBeAR on Jan 20, 2016 22:10:20 GMT -5
So...who are you calling a Liar? Bill Underwood, Mercer's President OR Jim Cole, Mercer's Director of Athletics OR Michael Ellis, Mercer's Assistant AD for Operations OR Daniel Tate, Mercer's Assistant AD for Marketing OR Lee Walker, Mercer's Director of Promotions & Gameday Operations OR Jordon Bruner, Mercer's Director of Media Relations OR All of the Above OR Someone Else If you're going to come right out in public and call someone a Liar, I think you should be upfront about who you're accusing of Lying. |
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Post by jackal on Jan 21, 2016 10:05:43 GMT -5
Oh the drama. I'm not calling anyone a liar. This is simply an example of "Wofford math."
I am sure there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for the attendance numbers. I am quite confident they are not simply making those numbers up. There is some calculation that leads them to report the numbers they do (probably tickets sold). I do not necessarily believe, though, that they arrive at these figures by counting fannies in seats. I think any objective person looking at the stadium would conclude that the attendance at some of these games is not in excess of max capacity.
This is not something exclusive to Mercer. College football attendance figures are easily manipulated. I mean, who is actually checking? Furman played a game against South Carolina State this year in a monsoon with a reported attendance of over 1,000. That is after the governor went on TV and told folks to stay home lest you be swept away. Maybe you get to 1,000 at that game if you counted all tickets sold, both teams, the officials, the ball boys, the bus drivers, everyone in the booth, imaginary friends, and the band (I'm not even sure the band was there). It sure wasn't by counting the number of folks in attendance, though.
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Post by FUBeAR on Jan 21, 2016 15:40:05 GMT -5
College football attendance figures are easily manipulated. transitive verb 1: controlled or played upon by artful, unfair, or insidious means especially to one's own advantage 2: changed by artful or unfair means so as to serve one's purpose ...so LYING. Who is it at Mercer that you are calling a LIAR? |
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Post by jackal on Jan 21, 2016 17:22:47 GMT -5
College football attendance figures are easily manipulated. transitive verb 1: controlled or played upon by artful, unfair, or insidious means especially to one's own advantage 2: changed by artful or unfair means so as to serve one's purpose ...so LYING. Who is it at Mercer that you are calling a LIAR? Let me be more precise. NCAA guidelines say that teams can count the turnstile, tickets sold, or estimate. To quote The issue came up at South Alabama, as reported in AL.com, where their AD stated: So, no, I am not calling anyone a liar. I said that there are not as many folks in the stands as Mercer reports there are. I stand by that, and believe any objective person with two eyeballs would as well. I also said that Mercer likely have a perfectly reasonable approach to calculating their attendance, and that appears to be most often by tickets sold. That benefits Mercer because they have great season ticket sales and good student participation. Just season ticket holders alone probably gets you to 3/4 of the stadium capacity even if not a single person showed up. |
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Post by FUBeAR on Jan 21, 2016 21:13:04 GMT -5
ma·nip·u·lat·edtransitive verb 1: controlled or played upon by artful, unfair, or insidious means especially to one's own advantage 2: changed by artful or unfair means so as to serve one's purpose ...so LYING. Who is it at Mercer that you are calling a LIAR? Let me be more precise. NCAA guidelines say that teams can count the turnstile, tickets sold, or estimate. To quote I said that there are not as many folks in the stands as Mercer reports there are. So....actually...YOU are MANIPULATING the meaning of Mercer's reported attendance to fit YOUR PREFERRED DEFINITION so that you can intimate something untoward is going on with Mercer's reported attendance figures, even though you KNOW there are other NCAA-approved, perfectly acceptable methodologies/definitions of attendance beyond the one that you 'approve'...OR are you now walking back from your "grain of salt," "Wofford math," and "manipulating" mischaracterizations/aspersions? If it's the latter, then can we assume you will also be apologizing to any/all of the people on the list above? |
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Post by jackal on Jan 22, 2016 6:09:59 GMT -5
Let me be more precise. NCAA guidelines say that teams can count the turnstile, tickets sold, or estimate. To quote I said that there are not as many folks in the stands as Mercer reports there are. So....actually...YOU are MANIPULATING the meaning of Mercer's reported attendance to fit YOUR PREFERRED DEFINITION so that you can intimate something untoward is going on with Mercer's reported attendance figures, even though you KNOW there are other NCAA-approved, perfectly acceptable methodologies/definitions of attendance beyond the one that you 'approve'...OR are you now walking back from your "grain of salt," "Wofford math," and "manipulating" mischaracterizations/aspersions? If it's the latter, then can we assume you will also be apologizing to any/all of the people on the list above? Mercer does not typically report the actual attendance. Many schools do not. Furman doesn't. Wofford doesn't. I am entitled to say that the crowd does not meet the attendance report, because that is objectively true. Mercer reports the number that most benefits them, just as every other school does. It looks more impressive to say you were at 103% stadium capacity than to report how many people actually were present. You responded to me saying Mercer is trying to build a fan base in Middle Georgia (which, by the way, is exactly what they are attempting to do) by throwing out attendance figures. I simply pointed out that the attendance figures don't match the actual attendance. I also said that there was a reasonable explanation for the figures, and have identified it for you. I don't see why the feigned outrage is necessary. |
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Post by FUBeAR on Jan 22, 2016 8:22:27 GMT -5
So....actually...YOU are MANIPULATING the meaning of Mercer's reported attendance to fit YOUR PREFERRED DEFINITION so that you can intimate something untoward is going on with Mercer's reported attendance figures, even though you KNOW there are other NCAA-approved, perfectly acceptable methodologies/definitions of attendance beyond the one that you 'approve'...OR are you now walking back from your "grain of salt," "Wofford math," and "manipulating" mischaracterizations/aspersions? If it's the latter, then can we assume you will also be apologizing to any/all of the people on the list above? Mercer does not typically report the actual attendance. Many schools do not. Furman doesn't. Wofford doesn't. I am entitled to say that the crowd does not meet the attendance report, because that is objectively true. Mercer reports the number that most benefits them, just as every other school does. It looks more impressive to say you were at 103% stadium capacity than to report how many people actually were present. You responded to me saying Mercer is trying to build a fan base in Middle Georgia (which, by the way, is exactly what they are attempting to do) by throwing out attendance figures. I simply pointed out that the attendance figures don't match the actual attendance. I also said that there was a reasonable explanation for the figures, and have identified it for you. I don't see why the feigned outrage is necessary. Due to the numerous factual errors & mischaracterizations in the above post, I won't even try to respond. Concluding that, unsurprisingly, no apology is forthcoming. |
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