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Post by southernpigskin on Oct 3, 2014 10:50:17 GMT -5
Hey guys, check out our weekly SoCon primer for a quick look at this weekend's slate of games that feature teams from the Southern Conference: www.southernpigskin.com/socon/s-3/ |
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Post by P&G on Oct 3, 2014 14:47:38 GMT -5
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Post by FUBeAR on Oct 3, 2014 15:28:55 GMT -5
Hey P&G....How 'bout you plug this - "Our pick - Bulldogs wins 49-14" ...so to speak  |
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Post by BearDownMU on Oct 3, 2014 15:47:59 GMT -5
35 point loss is a big number.
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Post by P&G on Oct 3, 2014 15:54:25 GMT -5
Hey P&G....How 'bout you plug this - "Our pick - Bulldogs wins 49-14" ...so to speak On, I see. You like southern pigskin's "Prediction: 42-24 Samford" better? That's fine, we'll see tomorrow which is closer. __________ Purple & Gold |
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Post by BearDownMU on Oct 3, 2014 16:02:11 GMT -5
To be fair, you are 13 points north of the spread, P&G. I'd take the Bears -35 if I had any money.  |
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Post by P&G on Oct 3, 2014 16:17:52 GMT -5
To be fair, you are 13 points north of the spread, P&G. I'd take the Bears -35 if I had any money. Since you guys haven't been around for football in the SoCon, you probably don't know Samford will score as much as they can. I won't go so far as to say they run up the score up, but they are in no hurry to get all starters out. Look at 63 they hung on VMI two weeks ago, and they scored 62 against WCU last season. If your defense is strong enough to stop Samford - great. But in my opinion the will be looking to top 63, even more so after the loss to UTC last week. Seriously, Good Luck tomorrow. Just know, no one is projecting high scores to embarrass or belittle Mercer, as a second year program and until Mercer can prove differently, most will project wide margins of victory for the established teams.
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Post by sudog1 on Oct 3, 2014 17:59:10 GMT -5
To be fair, you are 13 points north of the spread, P&G. I'd take the Bears -35 if I had any money. Since you guys haven't been around for football in the SoCon, you probably don't know Samford will score as much as they can. I won't go so far as to say they run up the score up, but they are in no hurry to get all starters out. Look at 63 they hung on VMI two weeks ago, and they scored 62 against WCU last season. If your defense is strong enough to stop Samford - great. But in my opinion the will be looking to top 63, even more so after the loss to UTC last week. Seriously, Good Luck tomorrow. Just know, no one is projecting high scores to embarrass or belittle Mercer, as a second year program and until Mercer can prove differently, most will project wide margins of victory for the established teams.
This is PURE BS. VMI 21, Samford 14 was the second half score, and Samford's starting QB did not take a snap after the half. Samford played 73 players total - does this sound like starters still in the game after halftime? If Samford had wanted to, we could have hit at least close to the 100 point mark against a listless(and the Bears will not be) VMI team. Looking to top 63? Come on, your statements are ridiculous, unwarranted, and certainly unappreciated at least by me. Mercer fans are hopefully more intelligent and informed about Samford and the SoCon than to believe any of this BS.
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Post by BearDownMU on Oct 3, 2014 18:09:48 GMT -5
It's cool. I don't think anyone is offended. We know we are new and we know we are young.
And just for the record, I El Oh Vee Eee being the underdog. Our guys will play hard. They always do.
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Post by sudog1 on Oct 3, 2014 18:23:25 GMT -5
Well I was offended because this is NOT what Samford is about. I also know that Mercer will play much harder than VMI did.
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Post by P&G on Oct 3, 2014 19:13:16 GMT -5
Since you guys haven't been around for football in the SoCon, you probably don't know Samford will score as much as they can. I won't go so far as to say they run up the score up, but they are in no hurry to get all starters out. Look at 63 they hung on VMI two weeks ago, and they scored 62 against WCU last season. If your defense is strong enough to stop Samford - great. But in my opinion the will be looking to top 63, even more so after the loss to UTC last week. Seriously, Good Luck tomorrow. Just know, no one is projecting high scores to embarrass or belittle Mercer, as a second year program and until Mercer can prove differently, most will project wide margins of victory for the established teams.
This is PURE BS. VMI 21, Samford 14 was the second half score, and Samford's starting QB did not take a snap after the half. Samford played 73 players total - does this sound like starters still in the game after halftime? If Samford had wanted to, we could have hit at least close to the 100 point mark against a listless(and the Bears will not be) VMI team. Looking to top 63? Come on, your statements are ridiculous, unwarranted, and certainly unappreciated at least by me. Mercer fans are hopefully more intelligent and informed about Samford and the SoCon than to believe any of this BS.
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You're entitled to your own opinion, however.... -"VMI 21, Samford 14 was the second half score" is not true. -the half time score was Samford 49 - VMI 0. -Samford scored 28 points in the 1st Qtr and another 21 points in the 2d Qtr for a 49-zip halftime score -the game was over for all practical purposes at the end of the 1st quarter, VMI was totally overwhelmed. - for example - with the score 42-0 in the second quarter, Samford received the ball on the on their own 21 yard line with only 1:36 mins remaining in the half. Did Samford take a 42-0 into the locker room -that would be a no. The Bulldogs proceed to drive the ball down to the VMI 20 yard line in 5 plays. With only :12 seconds remaining on the clock, Samford called time out to set up their final play. Then Eubank throw a 23 yard pass for a touchdown, for a 49-0 halftime score. Was it a good scoring drive, certainly it was. Do I think it was borderline to attempt a scoring drive in the last minute and a half, with the game already 42-0 against an over matched VMI, I think you know the answer to that. -yes, Eubank did not play in the second half, but Samford added 14 more in the third for the final total of 63. In my original post, I made the statement I would not accuse Samford of running up the score, and I did not. However, Samford did score as many point as they possibly could in the first half, even when the game was well in hand after the 1st quarter, there was no doubt that VMI had no chance to even compete, much less win the game. -"Looking to top 63", yes, there was even folks on your own message board stating they needed to top 63 for their highest score since joining the SoCon. Was it VMI's job to stop Samford? absolutely However, when teams are out manned from the starting whistle, the game plan should be changed. Just because you could have scored 100 points and didn't - doesn't mean the 63 points you did score - doesn't make people wonder about motives. So you can get indignant and say it's ridiculous, unwarranted, and anything else, but it's not a lie. I'll let the Mercer folks be the judge of Samford's tactics after they depart Birmingham Saturday. Good Luck to both teams, I hope there is no injuries. |
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Post by sudog1 on Oct 3, 2014 19:47:24 GMT -5
I won't post again - not right to have this argument on another team's fan Board. VMI 21 Samford 14 WAS the scoring in the second half, don't know how that is not true, because according to the stats it is. Yes, we are all entitled to our own opinions, but I don't see many if any teams benching starters in the first half, as there are always things to work on. But this again is not the place for us to argue.
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Post by FUBeAR on Oct 3, 2014 22:14:37 GMT -5
You're entitled to your own opinion, however.... -"VMI 21, Samford 14 was the second half score" is not true. -the half time score was Samford 49 - VMI 0. -Samford scored 28 points in the 1st Qtr and another 21 points in the 2d Qtr for a 49-zip halftime score -the game was over for all practical purposes at the end of the 1st quarter, VMI was totally overwhelmed. - for example - with the score 42-0 in the second quarter, Samford received the ball on the on their own 21 yard line with only 1:36 mins remaining in the half. Did Samford take a 42-0 into the locker room -that would be a no. The Bulldogs proceed to drive the ball down to the VMI 20 yard line in 5 plays. With only :12 seconds remaining on the clock, Samford called time out to set up their final play. Then Eubank throw a 23 yard pass for a touchdown, for a 49-0 halftime score. Was it a good scoring drive, certainly it was. Do I think it was borderline to attempt a scoring drive in the last minute and a half, with the game already 42-0 against an over matched VMI, I think you know the answer to that. -yes, Eubank did not play in the second half, but Samford added 14 more in the third for the final total of 63. In my original post, I made the statement I would not accuse Samford of running up the score, and I did not. However, Samford did score as many point as they possibly could in the first half, even when the game was well in hand after the 1st quarter, there was no doubt that VMI had no chance to even compete, much less win the game. -"Looking to top 63", yes, there was even folks on your own message board stating they needed to top 63 for their highest score since joining the SoCon. Was it VMI's job to stop Samford? absolutely However, when teams are out manned from the starting whistle, the game plan should be changed. Just because you could have scored 100 points and didn't - doesn't mean the 63 points you did score - doesn't make people wonder about motives. So you can get indignant and say it's ridiculous, unwarranted, and anything else, but it's not a lie. I'll let the Mercer folks be the judge of Samford's tactics after they depart Birmingham Saturday. Good Luck to both teams, I hope there is no injuries. Hairy Bear don't care - 1 or 100, it's still an L - losing team's job to score points and stop 'em. If a Coach wants to leave his starters in all 4 quarters and risk injury to them, that's his option. Now...going for 2 after a TD with hardly any time left and the game clearly out of reach, that's just being a Big Richard and such a coach deserves whatever karma that brings on him...like, say, coaching an FBS squad that loses to a non-scholarship FCS team that is middle of the pack in their non-scholarship FCS conference. Hate it for the future heroes he coaches, but still a well-deserved karma-induced L on the record...and maybe the ONLY time ever that an FBS team has lost to a non-scholarship FCS team...HA HA HA HA HA HA to infinity and beyond! |
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Post by bear38 on Oct 4, 2014 22:06:31 GMT -5
[quote author="P&G" source="/post/458/thread"
I'll let the Mercer folks be the judge of Samford's tactics after they depart Birmingham Saturday. Good Luck to both teams, I hope there is no injuries.
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This Mercer folk agrees. Samford did not run the score up.
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Post by bear38 on Oct 5, 2014 9:33:54 GMT -5
Just making sure that I have the correct scorecard on this thread:
A WCU fan and a Samford fan are having an argument over whether or not Samford runs up the score on a Mercer Board. Did I get that right?
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