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Post by bear38 on Nov 10, 2015 18:09:30 GMT -5
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Post by catamount87 on Nov 10, 2015 20:30:21 GMT -5
As much as it pains me to say this, I think we'll be just outside it even if we play Texas A&M close and blow out VMI. Why, simply only 6 D1 wins and a poor showing against UTC.
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Post by FUBeAR on Nov 10, 2015 21:11:23 GMT -5
As much as it pains me to say this, I think we'll be just outside it even if we play Texas A&M close and blow out VMI. Why, simply only 6 D1 wins and a poor showing against UTC. ...and The Citadel. |
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Post by jackal on Nov 11, 2015 6:11:24 GMT -5
As much as it pains me to say this, I think we'll be just outside it even if we play Texas A&M close and blow out VMI. Why, simply only 6 D1 wins and a poor showing against UTC. Unfortunately, WCU's win against Mars Hill "does not count" while Citadel's win over Davidson does. WCU gets punished for playing a much better team (albeit a D2 program). Again, this is not the first time a SoCon team has screwed themselves because of scheduling. If you are going to schedule to FBS contests (as several programs have) it will be hard to make the post season with a D2 on the schedule. |
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Post by BearDownMU on Nov 11, 2015 13:57:35 GMT -5
And unless I'm mistaken, that was because a D1 game got cancelled and they had to scramble for a replacement. Austin Peay maybe?
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Post by FUBeAR on Nov 11, 2015 15:21:52 GMT -5
And unless I'm mistaken, that was because a D1 game got cancelled and they had to scramble for a replacement. Austin Peay maybe? That was Chatt - APSU cancelled on Chatt because they got a chance to play a 'money' game @ Southern Miss. |
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Post by jackal on Nov 11, 2015 16:39:48 GMT -5
And unless I'm mistaken, that was because a D1 game got cancelled and they had to scramble for a replacement. Austin Peay maybe? That totally happens. You just don't want to be in the position where you have already scheduled to "unwinnable games" (like WCU has with UT and TAMU). In an 11 game season, the best you can realistically hope for is 9-2. If one of those games does not "count." then the best you've got is 8 wins. You can do the math, but to get to 7 wins when you only have 8 realistic countable wins on the schedule means you better show up every week. |
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Post by bear38 on Nov 11, 2015 16:46:57 GMT -5
And unless I'm mistaken, that was because a D1 game got cancelled and they had to scramble for a replacement. Austin Peay maybe? That totally happens. You just don't want to be in the position where you have already scheduled to "unwinnable games" (like WCU has with UT and TAMU). In an 11 game season, the best you can realistically hope for is 9-2. If one of those games does not "count." then the best you've got is 8 wins. You can do the math, but to get to 7 wins when you only have 8 realistic countable wins on the schedule means you better show up every week. Where does the "7 wins" come from? Is that 7 D-1 wins? |
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Post by BearDownMU on Nov 11, 2015 17:01:49 GMT -5
I think you need 7 FCS or better wins to be playoff eligible? Like 6 wins for bowl eligibility in FBS?
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Post by FCS Fan on Nov 11, 2015 18:15:43 GMT -5
Section 2•3 Selection Criteria 3. The won-lost record of a team will be scrutinized to determine a team’s strength of schedule; however, fewer than six Division I wins may place a team in jeopardy of not being selected; 4. The committee may give more consideration to those teams that have played all Division I opponents; From: www.ncaa.org/sites/default/fi...s_20150924.pdf page 16 |
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Post by FCS Fan on Nov 11, 2015 18:34:59 GMT -5
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Post by jackal on Nov 12, 2015 6:25:57 GMT -5
I think you need 7 FCS or better wins to be playoff eligible? Like 6 wins for bowl eligibility in FBS? I think there is a rule (maybe the one cited) that fewer than 7 D1 wins is for all intents and purposes a bar to the playoffs. I don't recall any team ever being selected without meeting that threshold. |
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Post by catamount87 on Nov 12, 2015 6:54:43 GMT -5
Like a pretty good number of othe FCS programs, budget considerations are a major factor in scheduling. Those 2 FBS games provide a noticeable percentage to the overall athletic budget. The D2 games have been played because it's a guaranteed home game. Plus it's a lower payout than an FCS game, again budgetary considerations. Add in NC's laws about athletic funding and it's easy to see how smaller programs struggle on and off the field.
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Post by jackal on Nov 12, 2015 9:10:57 GMT -5
Like a pretty good number of othe FCS programs, budget considerations are a major factor in scheduling. Those 2 FBS games provide a noticeable percentage to the overall athletic budget. The D2 games have been played because it's a guaranteed home game. Plus it's a lower payout than an FCS game, again budgetary considerations. Add in NC's laws about athletic funding and it's easy to see how smaller programs struggle on and off the field. It's a hard call. Furman played a brutal schedule this year. They backed out of a big FCS contest to play a money game against UCF (which, oddly enough, we won). Sometimes I sort of wish that Furman would schedule a D2 or a winnable home game. I appreciate a difficult schedule, and understand the complexities that makes for the post season, but I'd like at least one game that was not likely to be a full on war. |
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Post by FCS Fan on Nov 12, 2015 12:42:49 GMT -5
I think you need 7 FCS or better wins to be playoff eligible? Like 6 wins for bowl eligibility in FBS? I think there is a rule (maybe the one cited) that fewer than 7 D1 wins is for all intents and purposes a bar to the playoffs. I don't recall any team ever being selected without meeting that threshold. Read the rule book. I provided you a link. The ONLY number of D-I wins in the rule book is 6. It was changed from 7 to 6, the same season that the number of slots was increased to 24. If they have plenty of teams with 7 wins, and then only select teams with 7 wins, it's their call, but a team with 6 can be selected. Prior to the increase of playoff positions, a team was required to have 7 D-I wins. The number 6 is also consistent with FBS D-I wins for bowl eligibility. |
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