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Post by BearDownMU on Sept 8, 2016 15:25:53 GMT -5
Actually, we struggled on one play. One play where a LB got out of position and missed a gap assignment. There wasn't a whole of of struggling the rest of the day from our defense. You take that 1 run away and they would have rushed for 190 yards. 190. Oh I know that. We did struggle early on though. If you take that 1 run away we still gave up 125 rushing yards in the first quarter before we settled down. I just hope our guys can adapt to the game speed early on. If not, I just think it's going to be a long day for us. Their athletes are going to be far superior to ours. Vegas has us as a 32.5 point underdog, and Vegas isn't often wrong. I don't think they'll run it up on us, but I can see something like 35-0 or 35-7 if they let off the gas. "Their athletes are going to be far superior to ours" - Not sure I totally agree with this. FUBeAR may want to weigh in. Superior? Probably in some spots. "Far superior"? Not sure. FBS teams tend to get their big advantage more from depth than a super wide talent gap. "Vegas has us as a 32.5 point underdog, and Vegas isn't often wrong" - Yeah, but we're not shooting for often. We're shooting for extraordinary. The exception. The surprise. The Mercer vs. Duke. The shocker. App State was a 21 point dog against Tennessee last week, after all.
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Post by BearDownMU on Sept 8, 2016 15:28:15 GMT -5
Thanks GTFan #2 (Kinda like Mr. Wrestling #2)
As I said, of course we are huge underdogs. Doesn't change all of our hopes that our guys come out and do something EXTRAORDINARY.
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Post by BearFoot on Sept 8, 2016 15:43:55 GMT -5
Oh I know that. We did struggle early on though. If you take that 1 run away we still gave up 125 rushing yards in the first quarter before we settled down. I just hope our guys can adapt to the game speed early on. If not, I just think it's going to be a long day for us. Their athletes are going to be far superior to ours. Vegas has us as a 32.5 point underdog, and Vegas isn't often wrong. I don't think they'll run it up on us, but I can see something like 35-0 or 35-7 if they let off the gas. "Their athletes are going to be far superior to ours" - Not sure I totally agree with this. FUBeAR may want to weigh in. Superior? Probably in some spots. "Far superior"? Not sure. FBS teams tend to get their big advantage more from depth than a super wide talent gap. "Vegas has us as a 32.5 point underdog, and Vegas isn't often wrong" - Yeah, but we're not shooting for often. We're shooting for extraordinary. The exception. The surprise. The Mercer vs. Duke. The shocker. App State was a 21 point dog against Tennessee last week, after all. I have a cousin that plays for us, and he is good friends with 2 or 3 of GTech's players. He has said it and seems to me like the team knows it too that there is going to be a noticeable talent gap. And about the Vegas odds oh yeah I'm with you on that, I'm hoping for the extraordinary too, I'm just trying to have realistic expectations. Yeah I watched that App State Tennessee game last week. Nobody should ever be a 21 point favorite against App State, but then again we aren't App State.
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Post by BearDownMU on Sept 8, 2016 15:50:27 GMT -5
Well, if what you are saying about your cousin is true, then we are already dead.
I can tell you this, every time I took the mound wearing that Mercer uniform, I believed I was going to do my job. When I was staring at the batters box and saw Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Varitek, JD Drew, David Eckstein, Tim Hudson, Jay Payton, whoever. I believed I was going to shove it up their ass. That pitch, that moment. Man against man. I knew I could win. Until they proved me otherwise.
If our team is going into any football game thinking they are less talented, or placing them in some sort of tier below the man they are playing against, then there is no point in ever kicking off on Saturday.
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Post by jackal on Sept 8, 2016 15:52:11 GMT -5
Oh I know that. We did struggle early on though. If you take that 1 run away we still gave up 125 rushing yards in the first quarter before we settled down. I just hope our guys can adapt to the game speed early on. If not, I just think it's going to be a long day for us. Their athletes are going to be far superior to ours. Vegas has us as a 32.5 point underdog, and Vegas isn't often wrong. I don't think they'll run it up on us, but I can see something like 35-0 or 35-7 if they let off the gas. "Their athletes are going to be far superior to ours" - Not sure I totally agree with this. FUBeAR may want to weigh in. Superior? Probably in some spots. "Far superior"? Not sure. FBS teams tend to get their big advantage more from depth than a super wide talent gap. "Vegas has us as a 32.5 point underdog, and Vegas isn't often wrong" - Yeah, but we're not shooting for often. We're shooting for extraordinary. The exception. The surprise. The Mercer vs. Duke. The shocker. App State was a 21 point dog against Tennessee last week, after all. Watched a lot of these games. The issue is depth, not talent. The thing that would worry me as a GT fan is that Mercer just defended the option last week and (I'd wager) has been practicing against it for weeks. A lot of the difficulty of the option is having to prepare for it in a couple of days. Mercer has probably been doing little else but practicing against the option since mid-August.
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Post by jacketsfan on Sept 8, 2016 15:54:12 GMT -5
Lol at the beating a team instate comment. Let me know when you guys finally get past The Citadel
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Post by GT fan #2 on Sept 8, 2016 16:05:42 GMT -5
Lol at the beating a team instate comment. Let me know when you guys finally get past The Citadel Just stop, you are giving GT fans a bad name, there was no point in you coming on this forum and talking trash. They have their opinion and you have yours, and there's nothing wrong with that, but there is no need to bad mouth them. This isn't a UGA forum where they are just running their mouth.
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Post by jacketsfan on Sept 8, 2016 16:14:40 GMT -5
You obviously don't live in Macon #2. The whole reason I came over in the first place was because I was taken back by the mercer fans talking. They're already referring to Tech fans as nerds etc. Look at my posts, there is chest beating, sure, but everything is in response to dumb crap they're saying, bringing up games from 2008 and games that we won as reasons they will which is ludicrous. Fans wouldn't be fans without being fanatics but they've accomplished absolutely nothing to warrant casting any stones our way. Kiss their butt if you want but I hope we blow their doors off Saturday and make it ugly
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Post by GT fan #2 I went to school at on Sept 8, 2016 16:59:26 GMT -5
You obviously don't live in Macon #2. The whole reason I came over in the first place was because I was taken back by the mercer fans talking. They're already referring to Tech fans as nerds etc. Look at my posts, there is chest beating, sure, but everything is in response to dumb crap they're saying, bringing up games from 2008 and games that we won as reasons they will which is ludicrous. Fans wouldn't be fans without being fanatics but they've accomplished absolutely nothing to warrant casting any stones our way. Kiss their butt if you want but I hope we blow their doors off Saturday and make it ugly It's their thread though, they can say what they want. They didn't ask GT fans to come on here is my point. And I went to college in Macon and I have played baseball against mercer.
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Post by jacketsfan on Sept 8, 2016 18:18:46 GMT -5
It's a public forum... Oh, and guess what, I did my grad work and even worked at Mercer for a time. I've been to their games and was a semi fan, I even donated money to the football program a few years ago when they were trying to get it started up... don't talk about my Yellow Jackets though. Fan = Fanatic and I love my Jackets. Legacy and season ticket holder since 2003.
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Post by FUBeAR on Sept 8, 2016 18:38:58 GMT -5
"Their athletes are going to be far superior to ours" - Not sure I totally agree with this. FUBeAR may want to weigh in. Superior? Probably in some spots. "Far superior"? Not sure. FBS teams tend to get their big advantage more from depth than a super wide talent gap. "Vegas has us as a 32.5 point underdog, and Vegas isn't often wrong" - Yeah, but we're not shooting for often. We're shooting for extraordinary. The exception. The surprise. The Mercer vs. Duke. The shocker. App State was a 21 point dog against Tennessee last week, after all. I have a cousin that plays for us, and he is good friends with 2 or 3 of GTech's players. He has said it and seems to me like the team knows it too that there is going to be a noticeable talent gap. And about the Vegas odds oh yeah I'm with you on that, I'm hoping for the extraordinary too, I'm just trying to have realistic expectations. Yeah I watched that App State Tennessee game last week. Nobody should ever be a 21 point favorite against App State, but then again we aren't App State. I have a relative who has played for 'us' for the past 3 seasons, after transferring from an FBS program. He has 2 or 3 good friends on GT's Team. I have also Coached and/or Coached against more than a few of the Players on both teams back when they were in HS. My relative says that he has played against several players, at both the FBS and FCS levels, who are now in the NFL and that the difference in talent-level of those players and the players who do not make it to/in the NFL is completely or almost imperceptible during a game. Having stood on the sidelines...(Digression ALERT - well, I did actually PLAY FCS Football on a Team that beat team 1 SEC Team and 3 ACC Teams (including 1 with a GT on their helmets) during my tenure there as a Player and Coach, but that was a LONG time ago)...with these kids when they were in HS, I can support my relative's assertion. An inch taller here, a 0.1 seconds faster there...and that's about it. But here's the deal (and the TRUTH)...multiply those small differences times 22 (# of players on the field each play). Now, take away 35% of the depth (85 scholarships vs. 63) of 1 team in a sport that causes and punishes player attrition like no other sport and you have the REAL difference in FCS and FBS Football. So, here's how FCS Teams beat FBS Teams from time to time...4 of them did just that last weekend, in fact. 1) The cumulative small talent difference factor is overcome because an FCS Team is REALLY talented for FCS and is playing against an FBS Team that is REALLY not talented for FBS (Northern Iowa over Iowa State this past weekend might be a good example of that). 2) Multiple events occur which dramatically alter the depth differential - multiple injures/suspensions for the FBS Team vs. Few or None for the FCS Team, for example. Weather (Heat) can also play a part in this and the point in the season when the game is played can as well. Mid-Season, with cooler temperatures hitting and before season-long attrition begins to accumulate, FCS Teams can get back some of this differential as Starters can go the whole game and they aren't playing as many early-season non-starters as they will be later in the season, due to injuries. 3) Physical Execution differential - This can happen in any football game. Cumulative Small Talent differences don't matter nearly as much if the FBS team turns the ball over and has numerous drive-killing or opponent drive-sustaining penalties called against them. This can clearly change the outcome of any football game. 4) Mental Execution - FBS has no inherent advantage in this area. Some people call this 'motivation' (which is a lame-a$$ excuse - if you aren't motivated to play in a football game, then you have no business playing the sport). I don't think that's it. When the Teams that I played on / Coached upset FBS Teams 4 years in a row, I believe a large factor in each of those games was that my team EXPECTED to win - not hoped we could win, not thought we could win, not even believed we could win. We took the field EXPECTING to win those games. This is the most difficult quality to cultivate in a Team, but when you see it (as a Coach) or are part of it (as a Player), you KNOW it...and there's nothing like it. I always found it funny when Freshmen came in (maybe your cousin is a young buck still believing in 'Recruiting Stars' or that the Team that's on the Front page of the AJC every day MUST be populated with Football Gods) and realized that we honestly EXPECTED to win those games. They were shocked - "Really...c'mon, that's the Gamecocks...I mean, I know y'all are good and are gonna play hard, but they're the...Gamecocks." "Yep. We EXPECT to win. Don't worry. You'll get it soon." (I think Richmond's victory over Virginia (an ACC Team that beat GT last year) contained this element. I saw a Spider Team that EXPECTED to win that game from Kickoff to the Final whistle) I don't know if Mercer is in a position to capitalize on any of those 4 things or not. We'll see. If there's one wish I have for them though, it's that they take the Field - each one of them, including your cousin (if he is dressing for the game) - for this game & every one they play after it - truly EXPECTING to win. If they can do that, regardless of #1-3, they'll have a chance. If not, they probably don't. GO BEARS! MAUL 'EM!! PS - Also, not that it matters a whit in this context; my personal record against App St was 5-0...so...there's that, FWIW. Hey, don't blame me. You brought up those ShineDrinkers. Want a laugh? Watch this! 2,000,000 other people have.
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Post by FUBeAR on Sept 8, 2016 18:41:09 GMT -5
It's a public forum... Oh, and guess what, I did my grad work and even worked at Mercer for a time. I've been to their games and was a semi fan, I even donated money to the football program a few years ago when they were trying to get it started up... don't talk about my Yellow Jackets though. Fan = Fanatic and I love my Jackets. Legacy and season ticket holder since 2003. Wow - I would have never guessed that you were actually an adult. Well, OK then; now I know. Rock on brother! Sting all of 'em!! BTW - Noticed you mentioned grad work at Mercer and LEGACY of GT, but don't claim being a Tech Alum. I got a hunch here...GaSou for undergrad, maybe?
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Post by mercerfan on Sept 9, 2016 9:49:23 GMT -5
Just FYI I followed up with Mercer Atheletic Department and it is Georgia Tech that is selling us $20 tickets for $44.50. Mercer is not making a dime off the tickets. Thanks Georgia Tech.
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Post by jackal on Sept 9, 2016 10:07:52 GMT -5
Just FYI I followed up with Mercer Atheletic Department and it is Georgia Tech that is selling us $20 tickets for $44.50. Mercer is not making a dime off the tickets. Thanks Georgia Tech. If there is any SoCon fan base that shouldn't gripe about another university's ticket policies, it is Mercer.
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Post by FUBeAR on Sept 9, 2016 10:42:52 GMT -5
Just FYI I followed up with Mercer Atheletic Department and it is Georgia Tech that is selling us $20 tickets for $44.50. Mercer is not making a dime off the tickets. Thanks Georgia Tech. If there is any SoCon fan base that shouldn't gripe about another university's ticket policies, it is Mercer. Don't you have some bellhops and toxic lead poisoning to worry about...
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