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Post by BearDownMU on Jun 30, 2015 21:29:14 GMT -5
My projection is the Bears go 14-0 and make it into the College Football Playoff, where they will narrowly lose to Alabama.
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Post by FUBeAR on Jun 30, 2015 21:45:32 GMT -5
..........The only SoCon fan that I've seen with a 2-win projection for Mercer is YOU............. But to project as you have based on the general knowledge available to the public (last year's games, recruiting classes, etc.), well...as I said, just, inane drivel. Oh yeah - 1 more Group you did not mention that I KNOW is not projecting a 2 win season for the Bears in 2015 - Mercer's Players and Coaches.
I don't mind you categorizing my projections as inane drivel, that is your opinion. I do however mind your incorrectly stating my projection. Yes, I did originally state 2 wins, however I posted a correction and added ETSU as a win. That makes 3 wins.
"But to project as you have based on the general knowledge available to the public (last year's games, recruiting classes, etc.), well...as I said, just, inane drivel". What would you suggest I base my projections on? General knowledge, available to the public is ALL I got. Does that mean I should not post my thoughts? I'm not an insider at any institution, never clamed to be an expert, I just post about the SoCon for fun, as a hobby.
I fail to see why you take it so personal, when folks don't see the Mercer program through your eyes. Most of the folks that post on all the boards are casual fans, they pull for their team, and state their thoughts about their team based on general knowledge. If you have more than general knowledge about the Mercer team, great, that's nice for you.
I do however see that you enjoy trying to belittle anyone that doesn't state the opinion that Mercer is the second coming of ASU and GSU. Maybe they are, maybe they are not, only time will tell. Maybe Bobby Lamb will lead the Bears to the promised land, or maybe he will be fired at Mercer like he was at Furman. I don't know what the future holds, neither do you. I know you want the best for Mercer, just as I want the same for Western.
Maybe you should lighten up, and let others have their opinion, just as you have yours without making a federal case of it. What's wrong with just saying you disagree with someone else's opinion?
I hope you enjoy your trip to Cullowhee, enjoy the hospitality of the Catamount fans, but return home disappointed in the score.
Such an interesting response...I guess I'll have to 'break it down' to respond effectively... "I don't mind you categorizing my projections as inane drivel, that is your opinion. I do however mind your incorrectly stating my projection. Yes, I did originally state 2 wins, however I posted a correction and added ETSU as a win. That makes 3 wins." AND "Does that mean I should not post my thoughts? I'm not an insider at any institution, never clamed to be an expert, I just post about the SoCon for fun, as a hobby." - You set up a News Site for WCU Sports and on that news site, you get into DEEP analysis...I'm sorry, you offer Conclusions that would appear as if you've done deep analysis - Strength of Schedule 'analysis' and Win/Loss Projections. In today's world, yes, that makes you a Journalist...whether you get paid for it or not. So, if you're posting those conclusions on your News Site and other Social Media, you, as a modern-day journalist have a responsibility to do your homework and to be able to defend those conclusions. You're not, like me, just some yahoo posting in a message board thread. And, YOU 'incorrectly' stated your projection on your news site, not me...and then you corrected it (without notification via other social media or even acknowledgement of your original 'mistake' on your site) after you were 'called out' on the issue on this message board. That's irresponsible journalism. If you acknowledge it on your site and notify via social media the way you did when you posted the original 'mistake,' then I will acknowledge it and state it 'correctly.' ""But to project as you have based on the general knowledge available to the public (last year's games, recruiting classes, etc.), well...as I said, just, inane drivel". What would you suggest I base my projections on? General knowledge, available to the public is ALL I got." - I think my sentence was not as clear as I had hoped. Let me try again - as you may have gathered, sentence structure is one of my many not-so-strong suits.... Unless you have other knowledge that is NOT available to the general public, to come up with your 2-9 projection, is just inane drivel. Does that make more sense? "I fail to see why you take it so personal, when folks don't see the Mercer program through your eyes. Most of the folks that post on all the boards are casual fans, they pull for their team, and state their thoughts about their team based on general knowledge. If you have more than general knowledge about the Mercer team, great, that's nice for you." - Very little of what I post is ONLY "through my eyes," unless I state that it is just my opinion. I try my best to support my conclusions with information, facts, data, analysis, and to draw from my experience as a former football player and Coach. Fans posting on threads in message boards expressing their opinions is fine and fun..and I love to support or contest those opinions with data & analysis, if possible. Your site is not a message board. It is a news site. I don't think you have to uphold the journalistic standards of mass media, but c'mon, at least be able to offer some shreds of Logic or Data Analysis behind the Conclusions you present there. I take NOTHING on a message board personally. Interesting that you are projecting that character trait on to me. How did you arrive at that conclusion? Have I stated that my feelings were hurt or I was personally offended or angry? I do know some of Mercer's Players, Coaches, and Admin's. That's it. Very, very little inside knowledge and if I do EVER have any inside knowledge, I DON'T share it on a message board! What I post comes from my own research and analysis that I do for fun. "I do however see that you enjoy trying to belittle anyone that doesn't state the opinion that Mercer is the second coming of ASU and GSU." - I do very much enjoy 'sparring' with fans of other SoCon programs. I think Jackal and I go at it regularly on 3 or 4 different boards...and every once in a while he even presents well-informed, well-reasoned arguments  . I think your conclusion about me/Mercer/ASU/GSU is just amazing. Check my posts closely. See if you ever find me 'crowing' about how good Mercer is or is going to be. Or how bad they are going to beat someone....unless I am in 'full comedy' smack-talk mode. Did you notice what game I offered to bet you on? It wasn't a Mercer game. All I do is 'call out' people who, like you did with your 2-9 projection, cast wild aspersions at the Mercer Football Program (even if, as so often is the case, those aspersions are buffered or mitigated with some kind of back-handed compliment) and ask them to support their opinions with data/analysis or I offer data/analysis that tends to disprove, or at least, disagree with their narrative. It does not surprise me that you view that as "belittling." Try not to internalize my comments. I'm critiquing your opinions or your conclusions about SoCon/Mercer Football; not you as a human being. You may be, and probably are, a good guy/gal. But, if you tell the world the Bears sucked (unless they did...as in the Wofford game) or are gonna suck (unless I agree), I'm gonna come at you (in digital form) bro/sis. If you can't back up your opinions with facts/data/analysis, that's on you. If you present yourself to the world as a journalist, I'm might come after you harder and expect you to have a done a higher-level of analysis. BTW - If Mercer ever becomes like ASU or GSU, I will no longer be a Bears fan...but that's another story... "Maybe you should lighten up, and let others have their opinion, just as you have yours without making a federal case of it. What's wrong with just saying you disagree with someone else's opinion?" - I'm a feather, baby! So, you are saying message boards would be more fun & interesting if the discussion devolved to a 1st grade playground fight - "Am not!" "Are so!" "Am not!"...Gotta disagree with you there, my friend. If you don't want your opinions challenged, you might want to consider sticking to the safety of your news site where you can have unilateral control of the content. Carry on....wait, what about that bet I offered? We on? |
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Post by FUBeAR on Jun 30, 2015 21:56:59 GMT -5
My projection is the Bears go 14-0 and make it into the College Football Playoff, where they will narrowly lose to Alabama. WHAT AN IDIOT! Show me your analysis as to why they would lose to Alabama!! Hold on...I may have just answered my own challenge...  |
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Post by jackal on Jul 1, 2015 4:54:42 GMT -5
For the record, FuBear does not have jurisdiction to make a federal case out of this.
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Post by FUBeAR on Jul 1, 2015 5:44:00 GMT -5
For the record, FuBear does not have jurisdiction to make a federal case out of this. Don't be so sure. From what I've seen, I believe we could prosecute the Cats 'writer' under Federal HATE Crime Statutes. Pretty sure Bears are a protected class, no? And as a Bear, I qualify as an injured party, do I not? |
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Post by jackal on Jul 1, 2015 6:51:57 GMT -5
After reading your post, I went back to my projections, and somehow I overlooked the ETSU game. Mercer's projection total should be 3, not two. Wins should be over Stetson, VMI and ETSU.
Yes, Mercer will be improved, but every single SoCon team should be improved as well.
the other games as I see them..... AP - a toss up, but I give them the nod playing at home Tenn Tech - again will be close, but an edge to TT playing at home Wofford - another toss up, but Wofford usually wins the close ones, Terriers by 3 WCU -2 TD loss Citadel - wins come hard in Charleston, I see a 10 point win by the Bulldogs at home Chatty - Mocs by 20 Furman - Paladins by 3 Samford - Bulldogs by 10
I think the closest to a run on the Bears will be Chattanooga, but MU contained them last year -we''ll have to see what happens this year.
As you see from my projections, I don't think the Bears will be terrible, however I think my projections (preseason, mind you) are what most (other than MU fans) would project for the Bears coming into the season.
I too, hope you all come up to Cullowhee for the game, I think you'll enjoy the environment and the Catamount fans you encounter.
Win or lose, Mercer was a good addition to the SoCon.
- In your research, did you notice the score of the 2014 game was 28-0 before APSU's entire team had gotten out of the locker room and that the halftime score was 35-6 in Mercer's favor? Most of APSU's scores (to make it a semi-respectable 49-21 final score) were against backups. APSU will be better and they will be at home, but how you can call this a "toss-up" shows you either have inside knowledge not available to the general public or you have virtually no knowledge at all. It doesn't mean you will be wrong. You may be exactly right, but you have defined no basis for your conclusion whatsoever.
"Tenn Tech - again will be close, but an edge to TT playing at home" - No clue on my end (see how easy that is to admit) about the Skyhawks. You may be exactly right and I won't argue with you because unless I have some knowledge of what I'm talking about, I don't really think it makes sense to have an opinion (again, so easy to admit).
"Wofford - another toss up, but Wofford usually wins the close ones, Terriers by 3" - see everything I said for the APSU game above & reverse it. Woffy whipped the Bears like they were Government Mules last year. What is your basis for calling this a 'toss-up?' AND....Jeez, if it's a "toss-up," why wouldn't you follow your own logic (that you used in 'projecting the Mercer @ APSU game) and go with the Home Team?
"WCU -2 TD loss" - yeah...whatever - I know y'all are proud of that win last year, so I'll leave this 'projection' be...at least I can't find any fault with your logic on this one
"Citadel - wins come hard in Charleston, I see a 10 point win by the Bulldogs at home" - You know a just-missed 2-point conversion kept this one from going to OT last year, right? And, if I'm not mistaken, El Cid lost their starting QB and 1/2 (2) of their starting DLmen, 2/3 (2) of their starting LB's, and 1/2 (2) of their starting DB's, right? They may be better, but I would think you would have to look at that and say they are somewhat rebuilding on D this year. And I've played in Charleston as a Visitor. I LOVED playing there and I bet the Bears will too. Whatever - the Bellhops may play keep-away with the Bears luggage and win...so I won't argue your conclusion on this one, but I don't understand your logic and/or your basis for projecting another score (8 points) to their victory margin this coming season
"Chatty - Mocs by 20" - OK - I know they SCALDED the mighty Cats in Cullowhee last year and they are a darn good football team (as long as Huesmann stays upright - and probably still pretty good if he doesn't) and I actually think they are going to be better this year - so, I'm assuming you are also projecting them for a 63-0 win over WCU in Chatt then, right? I'll say OK - it could happen as you say...OR Mercer could 'shock the world' as they missed doing by a fingertip last Fall.
"Furman - Paladins by 3" - OK - I think, based on FU's injuries last year and the fact they are at Home, the right 'projection' might be FU by 10+...not saying that's how I think it's gonna turn out, but it would make sense to project it that way. BTW - How about a side-bet? I'll take FU in Cullowhee on 11/7 and I'll GIVE you the 3 points you said FU is going to beat Mercer by? (GIVING your projected 8-3 team points vs. a team you project to go 2-9...If you believe in your projections, then that's like taking candy from a baby for you, isn't it?)
"Samford - Bulldogs by 10" - So...at Home last year, Sammy wins by 3...and you must know something that says they are going to come into Macon and win by another score? I know what it is...yep, that's it, they beat WCU by 2 scores last year, so that narrow 3 point win over Mercer HAD to be a(nother) fluke. Got it. "I think my projections (preseason, mind you) are what most (other than MU fans) would project for the Bears coming into the season." - I could be mistaken, of course, but I don't think you are correct here. I can tell you that's not what I'm seeing the Chatt fan base project. Nor are the FU fans. Doubtful that El Cid and VMI fans are as well. The only SoCon fan that I've seen with a 2-win projection for Mercer is YOU. I will say that, from what I see, in a general sense, the Sammy fans and the WCU fans are the only Groups that feel that Mercer is FAR inferior to their juggernauts and that may well play out in 2015. But to project as you have based on the general knowledge available to the public (last year's games, recruiting classes, etc.), well...as I said, just, inane drivel. Oh yeah - 1 more Group you did not mention that I KNOW is not projecting a 2 win season for the Bears in 2015 - Mercer's Players and Coaches. Just preseason guessing, but I say Mercer beats APU, Stetson, and ETSU relatively easily. I think they lose to UTC, Samford, Furman, Wofford, and WCU. I think there are three "toss up" games between Tenn. Tech, VMI, and the Citadel. |
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Post by FUBeAR on Jul 1, 2015 7:57:24 GMT -5
"AP - a toss up, but I give them the nod playing at home" - In your research, did you notice the score of the 2014 game was 28-0 before APSU's entire team had gotten out of the locker room and that the halftime score was 35-6 in Mercer's favor? Most of APSU's scores (to make it a semi-respectable 49-21 final score) were against backups. APSU will be better and they will be at home, but how you can call this a "toss-up" shows you either have inside knowledge not available to the general public or you have virtually no knowledge at all. It doesn't mean you will be wrong. You may be exactly right, but you have defined no basis for your conclusion whatsoever.
"Tenn Tech - again will be close, but an edge to TT playing at home" - No clue on my end (see how easy that is to admit) about the Skyhawks. You may be exactly right and I won't argue with you because unless I have some knowledge of what I'm talking about, I don't really think it makes sense to have an opinion (again, so easy to admit).
"Wofford - another toss up, but Wofford usually wins the close ones, Terriers by 3" - see everything I said for the APSU game above & reverse it. Woffy whipped the Bears like they were Government Mules last year. What is your basis for calling this a 'toss-up?' AND....Jeez, if it's a "toss-up," why wouldn't you follow your own logic (that you used in 'projecting the Mercer @ APSU game) and go with the Home Team?
"WCU -2 TD loss" - yeah...whatever - I know y'all are proud of that win last year, so I'll leave this 'projection' be...at least I can't find any fault with your logic on this one
"Citadel - wins come hard in Charleston, I see a 10 point win by the Bulldogs at home" - You know a just-missed 2-point conversion kept this one from going to OT last year, right? And, if I'm not mistaken, El Cid lost their starting QB and 1/2 (2) of their starting DLmen, 2/3 (2) of their starting LB's, and 1/2 (2) of their starting DB's, right? They may be better, but I would think you would have to look at that and say they are somewhat rebuilding on D this year. And I've played in Charleston as a Visitor. I LOVED playing there and I bet the Bears will too. Whatever - the Bellhops may play keep-away with the Bears luggage and win...so I won't argue your conclusion on this one, but I don't understand your logic and/or your basis for projecting another score (8 points) to their victory margin this coming season
"Chatty - Mocs by 20" - OK - I know they SCALDED the mighty Cats in Cullowhee last year and they are a darn good football team (as long as Huesmann stays upright - and probably still pretty good if he doesn't) and I actually think they are going to be better this year - so, I'm assuming you are also projecting them for a 63-0 win over WCU in Chatt then, right? I'll say OK - it could happen as you say...OR Mercer could 'shock the world' as they missed doing by a fingertip last Fall.
"Furman - Paladins by 3" - OK - I think, based on FU's injuries last year and the fact they are at Home, the right 'projection' might be FU by 10+...not saying that's how I think it's gonna turn out, but it would make sense to project it that way. BTW - How about a side-bet? I'll take FU in Cullowhee on 11/7 and I'll GIVE you the 3 points you said FU is going to beat Mercer by? (GIVING your projected 8-3 team points vs. a team you project to go 2-9...If you believe in your projections, then that's like taking candy from a baby for you, isn't it?)
"Samford - Bulldogs by 10" - So...at Home last year, Sammy wins by 3...and you must know something that says they are going to come into Macon and win by another score? I know what it is...yep, that's it, they beat WCU by 2 scores last year, so that narrow 3 point win over Mercer HAD to be a(nother) fluke. Got it. "I think my projections (preseason, mind you) are what most (other than MU fans) would project for the Bears coming into the season." - I could be mistaken, of course, but I don't think you are correct here. I can tell you that's not what I'm seeing the Chatt fan base project. Nor are the FU fans. Doubtful that El Cid and VMI fans are as well. The only SoCon fan that I've seen with a 2-win projection for Mercer is YOU. I will say that, from what I see, in a general sense, the Sammy fans and the WCU fans are the only Groups that feel that Mercer is FAR inferior to their juggernauts and that may well play out in 2015. But to project as you have based on the general knowledge available to the public (last year's games, recruiting classes, etc.), well...as I said, just, inane drivel. Oh yeah - 1 more Group you did not mention that I KNOW is not projecting a 2 win season for the Bears in 2015 - Mercer's Players and Coaches. Just preseason guessing, but I say Mercer beats APU, Stetson, and ETSU relatively easily. I think they lose to UTC, Samford, Furman, Wofford, and WCU. I think there are three "toss up" games between Tenn. Tech, VMI, and the Citadel. So...a projected range of 3-8 to 6-5; that's reasonable. If the proverbial gun was held to your head and you HAD to pick one record as your projection, what would that be? Also...I find it interesting that you put FU in the 'sure loss' category for Mercer and 2 teams that beat FU last year in the 'toss up' category - The Citadel and VMI. I believe I know your logic for this - FU's host of Players returning from injury and otherwise, but still find it interesting that you (and probably most of us) make our projections about 'other' teams looking through the lens of 'our' team. I'll give you my projection - Mercer SHOULD beat Stetson and ETSU. The other 9 games are 'toss-ups.' Based on last-year, I WOULD only count Wofford as a 'sure loss,' but I have to believe THAT game was the anomaly for the season and have to believe the Bears have a 'toss up' shot this season of redeeming themselves from that performance vs. the ankle-biters. It was very much akin to Mercer's game vs. Marist in the prior year...just did not play at all like the team that had played the previous 10 or 11 games. I think you might find it reassuring that both of those games were Mercer's final Away games of the season. Guess who is Mercer's final Away game opponent in 2015? In fact, I have begun a FOI investigation into a scheduling conspiracy between the SoCon office and FU. In 2014, FU was gifted with Mercer's 1st-ever SoCon game and 1st-ever game against an FCS scholarship team and now, in 2015, FU has the opportunity to take advantage of an apparent (based on the prior 2 years) hiccup in Mercer's game preparation for that last road game each year. Something is rotten in Denmark (and SparkleCity)!!!! |
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Post by jackal on Jul 1, 2015 8:49:41 GMT -5
Just preseason guessing, but I say Mercer beats APU, Stetson, and ETSU relatively easily. I think they lose to UTC, Samford, Furman, Wofford, and WCU. I think there are three "toss up" games between Tenn. Tech, VMI, and the Citadel. So...a projected range of 3-8 to 6-5; that's reasonable. If the proverbial gun was held to your head and you HAD to pick one record as your projection, what would that be? Also...I find it interesting that you put FU in the 'sure loss' category for Mercer and 2 teams that beat FU last year in the 'toss up' category - The Citadel and VMI. I believe I know your logic for this - FU's host of Players returning from injury and otherwise, but still find it interesting that you (and probably most of us) make our projections about 'other' teams looking through the lens of 'our' team. I'll give you my projection - Mercer SHOULD beat Stetson and ETSU. The other 9 games are 'toss-ups.' Based on last-year, I WOULD only count Wofford as a 'sure loss,' but I have to believe THAT game was the anomaly for the season and have to believe the Bears have a 'toss up' shot this season of redeeming themselves from that performance vs. the ankle-biters. It was very much akin to Mercer's game vs. Marist in the prior year...just did not play at all like the team that had played the previous 10 or 11 games. I think you might find it reassuring that both of those games were Mercer's final Away games of the season. Guess who is Mercer's final Away game opponent in 2015? In fact, I have begun a FOI investigation into a scheduling conspiracy between the SoCon office and FU. In 2014, FU was gifted with Mercer's 1st-ever SoCon game and 1st-ever game against an FCS scholarship team and now, in 2015, FU has the opportunity to take advantage of an apparent (based on the prior 2 years) hiccup in Mercer's game preparation for that last road game each year. Something is rotten in Denmark (and SparkleCity)!!!! Gun to my head? I'd say 5 wins. I think they will beat ETSU and Stetson. You are more bullish on Austin Peay, but the Governors have been among the worst FCS scholarship teams for years. I think they will beat two of Tenn. Tech, the Citadel, and VMI. As you well know, plenty of good teams have lost to the Citadel in Charleston. I don't look too critically at any one game, as teams are never as bad as they look on their worst day or as good as they look on their best day. Every team in the SoCon but UTC was absolutely plastered at least once last season. Sure, Furman lost (in OT) to the Citadel, but Furman also beat Wofford who beat the stuffing out of Mercer. You can do that with pretty much every team in the conference. For instance, I don't think Furman was a top 5 team despite the fact that we were a dropped pass away from beating a top 5 team (Coastal). In the same manner, I don't think Mercer is at the level of UTC and Samford simply because those teams are better than the rest of the conference, IMO. As for Furman, I imagine I am looking at it through a colored lens. You are obviously aware that Furman was playing down several key players. They were on the road, it was a night game, and the biggest football game in Macon in probably 70 years. That's not an easy environment for a team to walk into against a former coach having just lost their starting QB for the season. Despite those advantages, Furman still won the game. I thought there were several opportunities for Furman to deliver a haymaker, especially in the second half, and they simply could not do it (as you know, we had problems on offense all season). They settled for a couple chip shot field goals inside the 10 and couldn't convert a defensive touchdown and then stop into points. Mercer took the lead a few times, but usually that was short lived. Furman had a two score lead with 3 minutes or so to go, and Mercer's best shot to win the game was pinned deep in their zone with virtually no time on the clock and no timeouts. So, I realize that is all slanted. However, given how bad Furman was last year, and the fact they won that game despite a lot of adversity, I like the Paladins chances at home with key players back in the lineup. Maybe I will eat those words. |
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Post by FUBeAR on Jul 1, 2015 9:38:15 GMT -5
So...a projected range of 3-8 to 6-5; that's reasonable. If the proverbial gun was held to your head and you HAD to pick one record as your projection, what would that be? Also...I find it interesting that you put FU in the 'sure loss' category for Mercer and 2 teams that beat FU last year in the 'toss up' category - The Citadel and VMI. I believe I know your logic for this - FU's host of Players returning from injury and otherwise, but still find it interesting that you (and probably most of us) make our projections about 'other' teams looking through the lens of 'our' team. I'll give you my projection - Mercer SHOULD beat Stetson and ETSU. The other 9 games are 'toss-ups.' Based on last-year, I WOULD only count Wofford as a 'sure loss,' but I have to believe THAT game was the anomaly for the season and have to believe the Bears have a 'toss up' shot this season of redeeming themselves from that performance vs. the ankle-biters. It was very much akin to Mercer's game vs. Marist in the prior year...just did not play at all like the team that had played the previous 10 or 11 games. I think you might find it reassuring that both of those games were Mercer's final Away games of the season. Guess who is Mercer's final Away game opponent in 2015? In fact, I have begun a FOI investigation into a scheduling conspiracy between the SoCon office and FU. In 2014, FU was gifted with Mercer's 1st-ever SoCon game and 1st-ever game against an FCS scholarship team and now, in 2015, FU has the opportunity to take advantage of an apparent (based on the prior 2 years) hiccup in Mercer's game preparation for that last road game each year. Something is rotten in Denmark (and SparkleCity)!!!! Gun to my head? I'd say 5 wins. I think they will beat ETSU and Stetson. You are more bullish on Austin Peay, but the Governors have been among the worst FCS scholarship teams for years. I think they will beat two of Tenn. Tech, the Citadel, and VMI. As you well know, plenty of good teams have lost to the Citadel in Charleston. I don't look too critically at any one game, as teams are never as bad as they look on their worst day or as good as they look on their best day. Every team in the SoCon but UTC was absolutely plastered at least once last season. Sure, Furman lost (in OT) to the Citadel, but Furman also beat Wofford who beat the stuffing out of Mercer. You can do that with pretty much every team in the conference. For instance, I don't think Furman was a top 5 team despite the fact that we were a dropped pass away from beating a top 5 team (Coastal). In the same manner, I don't think Mercer is at the level of UTC and Samford simply because those teams are better than the rest of the conference, IMO. As for Furman, I imagine I am looking at it through a colored lens. You are obviously aware that Furman was playing down several key players. They were on the road, it was a night game, and the biggest football game in Macon in probably 70 years. That's not an easy environment for a team to walk into against a former coach having just lost their starting QB for the season.Despite those advantages, Furman still won the game. I thought there were several opportunities for Furman to deliver a haymaker, especially in the second half, and they simply could not do it (as you know, we had problems on offense all season). They settled for a couple chip shot field goals inside the 10 and couldn't convert a defensive touchdown and then stop into points. Mercer took the lead a few times, but usually that was short lived. Furman had a two score lead with 3 minutes or so to go, and Mercer's best shot to win the game was pinned deep in their zone with virtually no time on the clock and no timeouts.So, I realize that is all slanted. However, given how bad Furman was last year, and the fact they won that game despite a lot of adversity, I like the Paladins chances at home with key players back in the lineup. Maybe I will eat those words. FIFY |
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Post by bear38 on Jul 1, 2015 9:50:51 GMT -5
"Tenn Tech - again will be close, but an edge to TT playing at home" - No clue on my end (see how easy that is to admit) about the Skyhawks. You may be exactly right and I won't argue with you because unless I have some knowledge of what I'm talking about, I don't really think it makes sense to have an opinion (again, so easy to admit). Just an FYI---- Tennessee Tech is known as the Golden Eagles. UT-Martin are the Skyhawks.  |
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Post by bear38 on Jul 1, 2015 9:59:41 GMT -5
I don't mind you categorizing my projections as inane drivel, that is your opinion. I do however mind your incorrectly stating my projection. Yes, I did originally state 2 wins, however I posted a correction and added ETSU as a win. That makes 3 wins.
FUbEAR --- See, a little education leads to a little progress. I think you should declare victory. He has admitted his first projection was sloppy, thoughtless and full of error. You've probably maxed him out on any more education. In economics we call that "The Law of Diminishing Returns (or Diminishing Utility)". |
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Post by FUBeAR on Jul 1, 2015 10:06:29 GMT -5
"Tenn Tech - again will be close, but an edge to TT playing at home" - No clue on my end (see how easy that is to admit) about the Skyhawks. You may be exactly right and I won't argue with you because unless I have some knowledge of what I'm talking about, I don't really think it makes sense to have an opinion (again, so easy to admit). Just an FYI---- Tennessee Tech is known as the Golden Eagles. UT-Martin are the Skyhawks. See - I not only admit when I'm clueless, I prove it! |
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Post by bear38 on Jul 1, 2015 10:16:28 GMT -5
Gee, I don't think we had this much fun on this board since the Furman Ticket Scandal last year!
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Post by FUBeAR on Jul 1, 2015 10:34:31 GMT -5
I don't mind you categorizing my projections as inane drivel, that is your opinion. I do however mind your incorrectly stating my projection. Yes, I did originally state 2 wins, however I posted a correction and added ETSU as a win. That makes 3 wins.
FUbEAR --- See, a little education leads to a little progress. I think you should declare victory. He has admitted his first projection was sloppy, thoughtless and full of error. You've probably maxed him out on any more education. In economics we call that "The Law of Diminishing Returns (or Diminishing Utility)". Nah 38...I didn't even get into this... The 'writer' has ID'd him/herself as the owner or administrator of the news site s/he linked to on here. S/he has also identified him/herself as actively participating in Catamount Club functions, which makes him/her a 'booster' under NCAA rules - a “representative of the institution’s athletic interests.” Per NCAA rules, a booster "may not comment on a Prospective Student Athlete on behalf of the Athletic Department to any news or media outlet prior to the PSA signing a NLI." Seems to me that makes these... Link to 'writers' Tweet about WCU prospective PSA with link to his news site articleLink to Article on 'writers' site about a WCU PSA ...NCAA violations. Pretty sure this quote from the Welcome page of the site qualifies its purpose as "on behalf of the Athletic Department" - "We look to spread the word about Catamount athletics and our great university, using this site as a catalyst to develop interest in and provide information about our Catamount sports programs" regardless of disclaimers stating no affiliation. In the NCAA's eyes, the owner/administrator of this site is affiliated and a WCU Athletics "booster." This activity, I believe, can subject WCU to NCAA sanctions, jeopardize the eligibility of the PSA(s), and subject the 'writer' to numerous restrictions regarding his/her association with the athletic program and the university. Seems like a clear-cut violation of NCAA rules to me, BUT I must be wrong (and maybe I need some of that edu-ma-cation you mentioned) because I can't imagine that the WCU Athletics Compliance peeps wouldn't have asked him/her to stop such postings if doing so is a violation. Any NCAA rules experts out there want to edu-ma-cate me? |
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Post by bear38 on Jul 1, 2015 10:35:25 GMT -5
Further analysis at the Purple and Gold site shows that he is predicting the overall conference record for all SoCon teams to be 25-30. I get this by subtracting the likely OCC record from his overall record prediction which would produce his following SoCon record prediction:
Mercer 0-7
UTC 7-0
Wof 3-4
VMI 1-6
Sam 3-3
WCU 6-1
Cit 4-3
FU 1-6
Total 25- 30
Obviously this is impossible and shows once again that very little thought has gone into these prediction.
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. I think your conclusion about me/Mercer/ASU/GSU is just amazing. Check my posts closely. See if you ever find me 'crowing' about how good Mercer is or is going to be. Or how bad they are going to beat someone....unless I am in 'full comedy' smack-talk mode. Did you notice what game I offered to bet you on? It wasn't a Mercer game. All I do is 'call out' people who, like you did with your 2-9 projection, cast wild aspersions at the Mercer Football Program (even if, as so often is the case, those aspersions are buffered or mitigated with some kind of back-handed compliment) and ask them to support their opinions with data/analysis or I offer data/analysis that tends to disprove, or at least, disagree with their narrative. It does not surprise me that you view that as "belittling." Try not to internalize my comments. I'm critiquing your opinions or your conclusions about SoCon/Mercer Football; not you as a human being. You may be, and probably are, a good guy/gal. But, if you tell the world the Bears sucked (unless they did...as in the Wofford game) or are gonna suck (unless I agree), I'm gonna come at you (in digital form) bro/sis. If you can't back up your opinions with facts/data/analysis, that's on you. If you present yourself to the world as a journalist, I'm might come after you harder and expect you to have a done a higher-level of analysis. BTW - If Mercer ever becomes like ASU or GSU, I will no longer be a Bears fan...but that's another story...
