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Post by BearDownMU on Sept 23, 2017 21:30:23 GMT -5
Dude, I was just having a conversation with you about your opinion on a playcall until the 8th post on page 3. Then you started in about me, and the board, and whether or not it should even exist. And you just went downhill from there. Stop trying to spin this around. Everyone on here can read.
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Post by etsubuc on Sept 24, 2017 6:45:58 GMT -5
I agree that Mercer probably has the most talent and should have won the game. However, I don't see anyone on here giving ETSU any credit for the win and for the progress that we have made. Our coaching staff is solid, our quarterback is efficient, our field goal kicker might be the best in the conference, and our defense has been our strength so far this season. Statistically, we played a pretty even game with Mercer.
I think ETSU will win 5 games this year, but be competitive in most of the games that they were blown out last season (Citadel, Wofford, UTC, Furman). This team is one that opponents will have to be ready to play in the coming years.
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Post by FUBeAR on Sept 24, 2017 10:20:51 GMT -5
I agree that Mercer probably has the most talent and should have won the game. However, I don't see anyone on here giving ETSU any credit for the win and for the progress that we have made. Our coaching staff is solid, our quarterback is efficient, our field goal kicker might be the best in the conference, and our defense has been our strength so far this season. Statistically, we played a pretty even game with Mercer. I think ETSU will win 5 games this year, but be competitive in most of the games that they were blown out last season (Citadel, Wofford, UTC, Furman). This team is one that opponents will have to be ready to play in the coming years. True |
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Post by BearDownMU on Sept 24, 2017 10:45:24 GMT -5
I agree that Mercer probably has the most talent and should have won the game. However, I don't see anyone on here giving ETSU any credit for the win and for the progress that we have made. Our coaching staff is solid, our quarterback is efficient, our field goal kicker might be the best in the conference, and our defense has been our strength so far this season. Statistically, we played a pretty even game with Mercer. I think ETSU will win 5 games this year, but be competitive in most of the games that they were blown out last season (Citadel, Wofford, UTC, Furman). This team is one that opponents will have to be ready to play in the coming years. Your guys played well enough to win. That being said, my experience in these matters is this: If you are farming for pats on the back, the message board of the team you just beat, that felt like they probably should have won, is not likely to be fertile ground. |
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Post by jackal on Sept 24, 2017 13:33:56 GMT -5
I'm not really sure how to dissect the defense, to be honest. You would hope holding a team to 20 would win you most games, but we did give up nearly 400 yards of offense. Herink completed 78% of his passes. After Stidham completed something like that last week. I mean, I get there is a bend don't break kinda component, but if we keep that up, Sammy and WCU are going to throw for 500 yards each when we play them. We held them to 2.5 yards per rush but they threw it all over the yard. Also, they were 6-14 on 3rd down. We also had 3 sacks and 12 tackles for loss. Ugh. I'm just so tired of these. I debate this often on our forum with folks too wrapped up in passing yardage and completion percentage. The way I see it, the goal of the defense is to keep the other team from scoring. It matters little to me how many yards a team can get between the 20s if they aren't scoring. 20 points on the road is a strong defensive effort, in my book. There is a valid criticism of soft zone coverage. A lot of teams run similar coverages in an effort to make teams make a lot of smaller plays to score instead of one or two big gainers. Most SoCon teams play a similar scheme with varying levels of intensity. If you don't necessarily have cornerbacks that can completely eliminate receivers (most teams don't), then it makes sense. As a fan, it can be maddening to watch teams dink and dunk their way down the field in a close game. Realistically, though, when you commit to playing that sort of defensive set, that's just going to happen. You have to stop the run, tackle well, buckle down in the red zone, and capitalize when the offense makes a mistake. |
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Post by FUBeAR on Sept 24, 2017 14:01:10 GMT -5
I'm not really sure how to dissect the defense, to be honest. You would hope holding a team to 20 would win you most games, but we did give up nearly 400 yards of offense. Herink completed 78% of his passes. After Stidham completed something like that last week. I mean, I get there is a bend don't break kinda component, but if we keep that up, Sammy and WCU are going to throw for 500 yards each when we play them. We held them to 2.5 yards per rush but they threw it all over the yard. Also, they were 6-14 on 3rd down. We also had 3 sacks and 12 tackles for loss. Ugh. I'm just so tired of these. Realistically, though, when you commit to playing that sort of defensive set, that's just going to happen. You have to stop the run, tackle well, buckle down in the red zone, and capitalize when the offense makes a mistake. ...and SCORE...by imposing your will on their Defense. |
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Post by Uncle Bo on Sept 24, 2017 14:56:50 GMT -5
I'm not quite sure where you point to coaching. But, to me the big culprits were: 10 penalties for 95 yards, several of them drive extending 2-10 on 3rd down. That's atrocious -1 on turnover margin. 0 takeaways Missed Extra point and a missed 35 yard field goal. -1 turnover was a 51 yard fumble return to set up ETSU first TD. Also as the HC stated after the game "heck we cant snap the ball between our legs and get the ball to the holder so we can kick a winning field goal!" |
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Post by flippmb on Sept 24, 2017 18:22:55 GMT -5
The replay I can find that shows the final play of the game does not show the whole field, but I count only 9 players on the field for Mercer. Likely, a 10th player, a safety, is out of frame, but I don't see where an 11th player could be. I think Mercer only had 10 men on the field when they gave up the winning score.
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Post by ursus on Sept 25, 2017 8:58:00 GMT -5
Going by ESPN's win probability chart our chances of losing both the Wofford and ETSU game combined were about 1 in 1976.
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Post by FUBeAR on Sept 25, 2017 9:27:33 GMT -5
Going by ESPN's win probability chart our chances of losing both the Wofford and ETSU game combined were about 1 in 1976.  |
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Post by BearDownMU on Sept 25, 2017 10:07:01 GMT -5
The replay I can find that shows the final play of the game does not show the whole field, but I count only 9 players on the field for Mercer. Likely, a 10th player, a safety, is out of frame, but I don't see where an 11th player could be. I think Mercer only had 10 men on the field when they gave up the winning score. After further review, and consulting with my football adviser and Sherpa, we believe there were 11 on the field. 2 guys off frame in the live game feed. You can kinda see a cleat and hand around the 15 yard line, likely the other safety. And then one other guy in coverage on the wideout for ETSU you can't see. |
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Post by mumd on Sept 25, 2017 18:44:27 GMT -5
Going by ESPN's win probability chart our chances of losing both the Wofford and ETSU game combined were about 1 in 1976. Welp, it happened... |
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Post by chez23 on Sept 27, 2017 14:49:41 GMT -5
It it that time when MU needs a new direction? How many late 4th quarter losses in the last 3 years?
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Post by BearDownMU on Sept 27, 2017 14:56:27 GMT -5
It it that time when MU needs a new direction? How many late 4th quarter losses in the last 3 years? I was wondering how long it would be before you turned up calling for coach's heads. |
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Post by chez23 on Sept 28, 2017 8:00:58 GMT -5
It it that time when MU needs a new direction? How many late 4th quarter losses in the last 3 years? I was wondering how long it would be before you turned up calling for coach's heads. Well after 3 years of losing a lot of leads in the 4th quarter then it may just be that time. MU should of been in the playoffs the last 2 years if not for late losses. BL a good football coach, sure he is, but there is something missing with the ability to close games out and it is costing this program big time now. Programs are evaluated on the W's and at getting to the playoffs. MU has made progress each year from 1, 2 to 4 SOCON wins....but this year was suppose to the the break out year as MU highly ranked in the SOCON pre-season and now lost 2 more BIG 4th quarter leads to now sit at 0-2. Do you not think BL should be on the hot seat? |
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